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Editor on a good day!

Editor on a good day!

September/October 2009 witnessed many changes in the development of page choices and comment discipline across ALL the Blog Pages. Many of the older (original) blog pages have been unpublished, but are re-instatable on request. Anecdote, banter, bullshit, repartee and lots of carping from the Editor about blog placement discipline, has been bandied back and forth. From henceforward (to the annoyance of some bloggers), misplaced comments, replies and threads, will be deleted within 24 hours and lost forever. If this seems harsh, then first read the Blogging Rules that follow below to ensure correct blog page selection. It will also help if occasionally, bloggers familiarise themselves with the Editor’s views and guidance over these matters, by browsing the appropriate Comments throughout the various blog pages. Use this page too, to have a good old grump at things you find unacceptable.

Any suggestions for change will be carefully considered

Any suggestions for change will be carefully considered

G'Day, G'Day, Always knew I was a bit of a bastard! Photo hotlinked

G'Day, G'Day, Always knew I was a bit of a bastard! Photo hotlinked

Just goin' for a swim brudda. Photo hotlinked.

Just goin' for a swim brudda. Photo hotlinked.

Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot 17th Century

Artwork Accreditation: Ron Embleton

Let me record the general guidelines of blogging on OUR DCLI related pages.

Rule 1. Peruse ALL Blog Page Titles (hotlinked) to best determine where to place your Comment. Any doubts, just go for the (new) General Banter’s Blog.

Rule 2. Trust your own intuition in placing a Comment on a particular page, do not blindly follow someone else’s misplaced comment. Feel free to ’self-correct’ your answer to another’s misplaced comment, by answering in a more appropriate blog page. The original ideas/expectations by Editor (that are unchanged) are that subscribers will try to contain relevant Comments to relevant Blog Pages and develop the history of the Title Topic, so that we can all enjoy the recorded commentary over years to come.

Rule 3. Experiment with CAPITAL HEADINGS to draw attention to content. Editor will embolden the Caps. e.g. (CAPITAL HEADINGS)

Rule 4. Avoid entering email addresses in body text. Spammers love ‘em. Your ‘logged in’ email address in the Comment Box is concealed from public view.

Rule 5. Use the Web Site/URL portion of the Comment Box accurately, otherwise leave empty. Usage of this option will hotlink your Name to the URL. Can be used for You Tube and/or any other web site that you wish to share. Do NOT place URL’s in body text, it will be repositioned. However, due to recent activity (Oct 2009) multiple You Tube references are being raised within a Comment. If the subscriber wishes to copy/paste the appropriate URL ACCURATELY within the body text, separated by a space, the Editor will convert to a hotlinked BOLDED TITLE for general appreciation.

Rule 6. Be considerate in your remarks. Bullshit, banter and taking the piss is allowed, but that cuts both ways.

Rule 7. Upkeep and maintenance of these blog pages is voluntary by Editor and I seek to accommodate ALL, but kindly respect the time, effort and image enhancement processing that is undertaken.

Rule 8. We are a democratic group, suggestions for improvements/page titling options are always welcome. Please place ALL suggestions in the “In a pig’s arse” mailbox.

Rule 9. If you wish to privately communicate to another by email and seek their email address, ask Editor to forward your email address as an invitation to t’other party.

Rule 10. Consider registering an Avatar with WordPress. Editor will guide you through the process. An Avatar is your chosen thumbnail image that is shown with every Comment you log. The Avatar can be an image of anything (clean and decent) that you choose.

Rule 11. Read your Comment carefully, before sending. Correct your spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors.

Last hope for salvation for 10,000 kms

Last hope for salvation for 10,000 kms

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Fridge magnet

This is Bartok & friend before kissing the Prinsome Hance - sent from JT - is he trying to tell me something?

This is Bartok & friend before kissing the Prinsome Hance - sent from JT - is he trying to tell me something?

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146 Comments

146 responses so far ↓

  • Editor in Brisbane // September 15, 2009 at 12:45 am | Reply

    NEW PAGE – COMMENTS INVITED

    ‘Yer ‘Tis. Your opportunity to grouse constructively.

    Carpe Diem!

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 15, 2009 at 12:01 pm | Reply

    Hi Derek. This is more like it. Over the last few years Doris has named me Victor Meldrew? I wonder why? When Chelsea lose I do my nut and since my illness last year I thought I had mellowed. According to my family I am back to normal, moaning and groaning mainly if my PC goes a bit wrong, on the phone to Donald my son to rectify the problem. Normally it is very minor fault, but I still gripe at the least things in life, must be old age?

    • Editor // September 16, 2009 at 1:01 am | Reply

      Hi Swanny,

      Don’t believe that the others have found this new page yet, just proves how infrequently the Blog Titles are browsed.

      However, good to read your comment and observe your reflections on the generalities of life. During the time I spent with you and Doris in Penzance, during last June, I found you to be highly jovial and well balanced. I was a tad disappointed though that none of us got a ringside seat when your private nurses attended, to administer your medication. What a sight that would have been!

  • Editor // September 16, 2009 at 3:21 am | Reply

    GRUMPY OLD MAN JOKE!

    An old man gets on a crowded bus and no one gives him a seat. As the bus shakes and rattles, the old man’s cane slips on the floor and he falls. As he gets up, a seven-year-old kid, sitting nearby, turns to him and says, “If you put a little rubber thinggy on the end of your stick, it wouldn’t slip.”

    The old man snaps back, “Well, if your daddy did the same thing seven years ago, I would have a seat today.”

    I Think You are the Father of One of My Kids

    An older guy goes to the supermarket and notices a beautiful blond woman wave at him and say hello. He’s rather taken aback, because he can’t place where he knows her from. So he says, “Do you know me?”

    To which she replies, “I think you’re the father of one of my kids.”

    Now his mind travels back to the only time he has ever been unfaithful to his wife and says, “My God, are you the stripper from my bachelor party that got me so excited I had to lay you right there on the pool table with all my buddies spraying whip cream on us?”

    She looks into his eyes and calmly says, “No, actually I’m your son’s math teacher.”

    Offensive mood ring

    My mate’s wife being unhappy with his mood swings brought him one of those mood rings so she could monitor his mood. They discovered that when he was in a good mood it turned green and when he’s in a bad mood it leaves a big fucking red mark on her forehead.

  • Editor // September 16, 2009 at 8:00 am | Reply

    WORTHWHILE QUOTE TO MAKE YOUR DAY!

    “In the early days all I hoped was to make a living out of what I did best. But, since there’s no real market for masturbation I had to fall back on my bass playing abilities.”
    Les Claypool

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 16, 2009 at 8:45 am | Reply

    ED. I think if you saw my nurses during my treatment at home you would have a surprise, three of them were quite old and my usual nurse was a bloke and a really big guy but very efficient in his job of changing my dressings etc.

    Only had one big hickup was that COW who took my dressing off and my feeding tube came out, six hours and a trip back to hospital and then on the dreaded drip again for two days before my tube was reinstated, I was not a happy bunny.

    ED: All behind you now though Swanny, hopefully. Onwards and upwards healthwise and hopes that you are putting on weight. Still on the Guiness ‘Ole Mate?

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 16, 2009 at 10:55 am | Reply

    ED.Thanks for your quick response Derek, I think we will keep this site for just you and I, HA HA, we have so much in common.

    Yes Derek, Doris and I go to the Legion and meet up with her cousin and her husband every Saturday evening and I am enjoying my Guiness, can manage three or four pints, goes down lovely. I am not putting on much weight but I eat very well, hopefully I will in the future, but I don’t want to be as big as I was (13 stone) before I went in hospital, would like to be like I was when I joined the Dukes, 10-10 half stone. Only trouble is I have had to get clothes that fit now. Weighed yesterday about 8 stone and a half.

    ED: Well done, good news ‘Ole Mate. Keep Well.

  • Sylvia // September 17, 2009 at 12:47 pm | Reply

    Hi guys,

    I have not visited this site as it says ‘Grumpy old men’ (only kidding ED).

    As you are discussing illness, I would like to add my ‘Grump’ I had cancer 15 years ago, yes I thank God every day for the 15 years I wouldn’t have had. But the guy who put the line in for the Chemo put it in crooked and it came out of the vein, now when you first have chemo you don’t know what to expect so when it hurt I told myself to stop being a baby and put up with it. I now have an almost useless hand, to go with my nearly useless arm (I had Breast Cancer). If that guy had told me what to expect, and that it shouldn’t hurt this wouldn’t have happened. I personally would like to castrate that bloke.

    Grump over.

    Pleased you are on the mend Swanny.

    It’s nice to have a blog to grump on, so can I be an honorary man, then may be I can pee in the sink.

    ED: Welcome aboard ‘Old Grumpy’s Page’, Sylvia. Grump away to your heart’s content.

  • Margaret Royffe // September 17, 2009 at 8:12 pm | Reply

    I haven’t got much to moan about but I do enjoy reading your page so keep it up I am enjoying your banter

    XXxx

  • Margaret Royffe // September 17, 2009 at 8:48 pm | Reply

    And Swanny thought there was only going to be the ED and him on this blog.

    Hasn’t it been so cold tonight – there that’s my grump

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 18, 2009 at 7:39 am | Reply

    Hi All. So nice to have both you girls as the first since Derek and I. I think Derek we will keep them for ourselves.

    Derek, I think HR is looking down on us two saying make sure you look after my girls HA HA. When I go on HR’s blog I am still in awe of him after all these years HR (RIP) and to think Derek, we are the Grumpy Old Men!

    ED: Make the most of it Swanny, our own page to bull and banter, but not for long our exclusive domain for sure.

    • Margaret Royffe // September 18, 2009 at 3:45 pm | Reply

      Now then you two don’t get bogged down with being ‘Grumpy’ enjoy every minute and think positive. HR was only Grumpy when he wasn’t well.

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 18, 2009 at 5:38 pm | Reply

    All. Looking back to the good old days I think 9 out of 10 smoked, I haven’t smoked for years now, used to smoke 50-60 a day then, I am a very Grumpy these days when I smell ciggies. Not too bad as they have to go out of the clubs etc if they want to puff.

    H R and Co would never believe it!

  • Sloop JB // September 18, 2009 at 8:25 pm | Reply

    Hello everybody,

    Good to be back
    Good to be back
    Did you miss me yeah
    While I was away?
    Did you hang my picture on your wall
    I bet you didn’t miss me at all

    We’re back boys, the worst hotel we ever stayed at, we don’t recommend staying at The Grand Hotel Scarborough.

    How’s that for a grump Cheps. Thanks ED for this page.

    • Sylvia // September 18, 2009 at 10:39 pm | Reply

      JB

      We did miss you, yes we did.
      We did, we did, we did, we did!

      Welcome to the Gumpy Page,
      Where we all come to rage.

      The Grand Hotel was it very naughty
      Did you stay with Basil Fawlty

      Were the staff just not alert
      Come on JB dish the dirt

      ED: Gawd! the mind boggles at the potential here.

  • Editor // September 18, 2009 at 11:42 pm | Reply

    From t’North has come back ‘Ole JB,
    Pseudo splendour – at Towers Fawlt-y!
    Service, so called, was quite marred
    Like t’eggs, when they got ‘em were hard,
    Now he can grouse on new page – ‘Ole Grump-y.

    • Poet, don't know it // September 18, 2009 at 11:55 pm | Reply

      Poor ole JB is snoring like a hog
      ‘E don’t know going on in this blog
      We’re not taking the pee
      We’re very sorry for ‘ee
      Can’t do no more for you ED
      Have to go up t’wooden hill to bed

      ED: Bravo Phantom Poet (!), that’ll set the pace!

  • JT // September 19, 2009 at 12:29 am | Reply

    Well now just showsya

    I thought this blog was just for bloggers to be grumpy about the blog and get Ed wound up.

    ED: There you go JT. Has a mind of it’s own. Ah Well, just needs Dave to join in!

    • Dave H // September 20, 2009 at 5:04 am | Reply

      This is for our fearless leader. It might get a smile out of him.

      ED: Thanks Dave, made my (birth) day, very apt. Good to see your comment.

      • Editor // September 20, 2009 at 8:00 am | Reply

        Trapper Dave has come in from the cold
        With fresh comments to tickle the Old -
        Grumpy’s page he has scanned, ’tis so true
        What now’s MMGs blog gunna do
        With the stories he tells – he’s so blue!

  • Sloop JB // September 19, 2009 at 9:08 am | Reply

    Morning all,
    Had a good nights sleep last night so I ain’t too grumpy this morning. One thing wrong with the hotel, there were so many OAPs there I couldn’t get near the lift, you know what I mean. Tell ‘ee what, if there was another war (god forbid) there wouldn’t be a shortage for ‘DADS ARMY’, think about it.

    Sylvia, I think I saw Basil in the back ground hiding behind a branch, must have been waiting to give the coach a thrashing.

    Grump Grump Grump

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 20, 2009 at 12:44 pm | Reply

    All. Grumpy today. First time in many years that I had to decline being on parade for the RAFA Battle of Britain where we the DCLI Assn, always lead the Parade as the County Regiment on the wishes of the Penzance RAFA Association.

    I rang Nobby Clarke to say I wasn’t up too much today and for him to represent me on behalf of our Branch. I think this will be the end of my Marching Days. Armistice etc, AGE SHALL NOT WEARY THEM and all that, old saying you can’t be first and last blowing my own trumpet I haven’t missed many in over 50 years and have been proud to have done it.

    • Sylvia // September 20, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Reply

      Chin up Swanny, you’ve more than done your bit for the Rememberance days etc. My sister Eileen carries the Standard for the BL Ladies Section, so I know what it means to you. We are very proud of her, I even changed the date of my husbands funeral so she could march into York Minster with the Standard. She also wears miniatures of Dad’s Medals (on the other side of course) and has been to France and Belgium.

      Our generation will never forget.

    • Margaret Royffe // September 20, 2009 at 6:50 pm | Reply

      Swanny, you will still be attending the Services and watching the parades and Nobby will do a good job too. You keep your pecker up. Syliva is right you have done your bit but you are still able to support the Regiment and your association. God Bless you. We will never forget and we will pass on our devotion to our children. Take care now
      XXX

    • Editor // September 20, 2009 at 11:39 pm | Reply

      NEIL (SWANNY) SWANSON BLOG PAGE

      Many respectful comments for Swanny’s loyalty and service to the Flag and the Regiment will flow on from his announcement. Kindly build our blog page tribute to our ‘Ole Mate (referred above), in the appropriate place, to ensure that we can all review his contributions over the years to come.

      As is obvious, any specific comment such as one for Swanny, inserted into a general blogging banter, will soon be overtaken into obscurity, ‘cos readers will simply not run back to ancient pages. That’s the point I endeavour to make “horses for courses” – place your comments in the most appropriate blog for the subject topic. Geddit?

  • Sloop JB // September 20, 2009 at 1:29 pm | Reply

    Swanny,
    Sorry to hear you’ve handed your mantle over. Just think you have done it all this time with pride. Keep going old son, don’t let it get at you. Time for a rest.

    Take care JB.

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 21, 2009 at 4:34 pm | Reply

    ED, Sorry again for writing on wrong Blog! Is there any way you can put it on my blog page? As you know I get carried away!

    ED: Thanks Swanny and I respect your request BUT candidly wrongly placed Comments have become a bloody nightmare and I’m doing my best to be a good, friendly Editor here, but fast losing the plot. I make endless appeals for orderliness and fuck all happens. With respect to you, you continue to log in a partly completed URL that underlines your name and goes nowhere. I remove it each time.

    If fr’instance, I do relocate your wrongly placed comment (as you have asked) the Comment will lose it’s origins from your computer to mine, which beggars the intent. I have written another diatribe to Margaret over this matter and hope that soon the disciplines of blogging will take effect. Please read ALL the “Rules” at the header portion of “Old Grumpy”

    • Margaret Royffe // September 21, 2009 at 5:21 pm | Reply

      ED: there are times when you want to respond to comments straight away and I just click on the reply button and blow me got it wrong, but what is the point of putting your supportive comment on another blog it all gets out of sync.

      There you are that is my grump for today. I still support Swanny though and hope he feels better about not being able to do what he loves.

      ED: Thanks Margaret. Perhaps in my somewhat ‘lofty’ position of immediately seeing ALL comments in line order (as time logged) NOT only inside each blog, I have a different perspective on matters.

      What I have always intended, when we only had a few blogs, was to marshall comments into blog ‘paddocks’. This gave rise to “Wise & Wicked”, “Rhyme or Reason”, “Afghanistan” where global issues that fell within these parameters were logged. No problem.

      Then the “Swanny Swanson”, “RSM”, “Lt Col Marsh”, “Joe Tippett”, “MMG” blogs were born, where I imagined that relevant comments would flow. (I’m not being editorially inventive here, just scan these blogs and see how poorly they’re subscribed to (and mis-used in the case of MMG), with wrongly placed comments elsewhere, then you’ll share MY frustration!).

      We now (also) have “Bloody Unbelievable” which if a reader browses that header section, the conclusion (hopefully) is drawn that stupid, pathetic events of a political, international profile, that have some impact on we law abiding citizens of Western Countries, can be commented upon. This works some of the time, but not always. WHY?

      The answer I believe (and MY thoughts and intents are not paramount) is that an enthusiastic blogger kicks off a comment in the wrong blog, which is then picked up by a Responder and then the trail – down the wrong blog – is continued. What then happens is that (fr’instance) Swanny’s supportive replies/comments finish up deeply buried in what has become a ‘general’ blog and very quickly gets lost in the pages and layers of dated articles.

      I would like to see related Comments placed in related Blogs, but this entire venture will become meaningless if readers don’t take the trouble to generate order in the beginning. Simply because your computer bandwidth will eventually spit the dummy, and take too long to load the page, you’ll get impatient (a nanosecond is a long time on a computer), you’ll not bother, I’ll get cussed and called an infidel (!), and we lose support.

      I don’t have all the answers, but I can tell you all right now, we have a bloody nightmare looming, if some semblance of orderliness ain’t applied. If anyone has a suggestion for a solution, speak up!

      PS: See another new Blog Page – General Banter’s Blog!

  • Sylvia // September 22, 2009 at 1:05 am | Reply

    ED

    We can not talk about Jamaican food, flowers and places of interest on the MMG, JAMAICA & ‘S’ company blog, we can no longer do general chit chat on the ‘Bloody Unbelievable’ blog, yet one blogger was doing general chit chat on the Harold Royffe blog and not a word to him from you. I can no longer hack all this.

    ED: Well – what would YOU have done Sylvia? Can YOU claim accuracy with all your comments in relation to the blog content and relevance? How would you encourage ongoing commentary to a new squaddie? Easy to critique without offering constructive ideas. Your welcome presence on the blogs is a breath of fresh air, but what I have repeatedly asked is for blog discipline. Seems a tad premature (to me) to join Dave on the sidelines, he obviously still reads the blogs!

    • Editor // September 22, 2009 at 1:19 am | Reply

      Well it’s like this Sylvia. I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t. I might be anal, but I’m stuffed if I’m going to be editorial policeman to every logged comment, along with DAILY correcting 100s – yes 100’s of spelling and syntax errors. MY expectations are that we have a Blog platform that is ‘Shipshape and Bristol fashion’. So far as MMGs are concerned – it WAS initially related to Vickers machine guns and matters of Regimental interest in Jamaica. I fail to see how difficult that is!

      T’ain’t rocket science to read the headers and opening comments on “Unbelievable” to fathom out where it’s been shafted into meaningless oblivion, despite the attempts by the few (!) to bring it back on line!

      The central problem is that only (about) 10 Comments remain at view on any single blog page. The fr’instance example that I used about Swanny, was that current day (20th – 22nd Sept 2009) comments about this loyal lad with meritorious 1DCLI etc service, logged into “Unbelievable” – (and I for one fail to see relevance there) – get ‘lost’ to view after a few days. I believe that Swanny – and others – are far more deserving of recognition than is the case so far, than being placed in the mixed comments that are recorded on this page (“Unbelievable”). In that instance however, Swanny himself was t’miscreant in that he used Unbelievable to make that announcement and everyone follows like sheep. IMHO, Swanny shoulda used DCLI – BUT -(see another technical glitch) WordPress has shut me out (temporarily) and I dunno when normal service will be restored.

      With regard to MMGs, I can further appreciate that wider interests prevail when additional matters that relate to Jamaica, that are NOT Regimental, are now visited into the comments. Unless an alternative was offered (which until today was the case), OK, some mix will (and has occurred).

      Anyone who so wishes can take their bat and ball home with ‘em, (and ain’t THAT a simple solution?) but NOW I have provided General Banter’s Blog for ‘general banter’ seems to me that there is an alternative. I have gripes too, see it from my aspect. Not one of the Blogging Fraternity has offered a solution and as best as I can see, few – if any – read the header sections of any of the blogs. Draw your own conclusions, if as and when you browse ALL the blogs and work out how misplaced many of the comments are, you’ll see the problem.

      The final issue is what to do when a blog page refuses to load on your PC/Mac because of bandwidth load? Whaderyugunnadothen? – OK, maybe not your specific problem! – but when another fresh blog page is published – guess what? – someone else cracks the shits and takes their bat and ball home. Tellyerwat! – ’twas easier when there was only 1 blog – “A” Company 1DCLI – and NOW that’s ignored too! – I can’t solve ALL the ongoing issues. Just a bit of good ‘ole LI support and discipline is needed here, with a bucketful of tolerance! Lord give me patience, but give it to me now! (SMILE)

  • Margaret Royffe // September 22, 2009 at 3:31 am | Reply

    ED: SMILE ON thanks for the new blog and all your thoughts on the rights and wrongs. We are all doing our best to keep within your guidelines but sometimes it goes wrong SORRY!

    ED: Thanks Margaret, this situation is highly fluid as anyone can see, and the exponential curve of related issues become greater with additional contributors on board. If everyone stopped to draw a breath before logging in and asked “Am I part of the solution or part of the problem” – we’ll get there eventually.

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 22, 2009 at 10:53 am | Reply

    Ed, As you have said it was easier when I first got on line and it was just ‘A’ COY. Three years on and I fully agree with you on your comments regarding going on wrong blog.

    I will endorse what Margaret and Sylvia have remarked but we have got carried away by going on the wrong blogs. I for one will do my best to follow the rules of blogging and finally Derek, I fully respect all you do for our benefit on procedure of blogging.

    To quote the BUFFS RAOB their motto “NEMO MORTALIUM OMNIBUS HORIS SAPIT” – No Man Is At All Hours Wise.

    ED: Agreed – cuius vis hominis est errare (it is natural for any man to make a mistake)

  • Sloop JB // September 22, 2009 at 11:13 am | Reply

    I say Sylvia I think you’ve stirred the ED up. You could say you made him Grumpy, good job we got this page isn’t it.

    Hi Ed, belated birthday wishes to you, does that mean you’re old enough to join the grumpy old men’s club with the rest of us old buggers. (Smile darn you smile).

    ED: Thanks JB. I’m all of ‘em (the dwarfs). Sleepy now, was Happy, before that Grumpy and I have been Sneezy all day also.

  • Sloop JB // September 22, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Reply

    What’s up Doc, powder got up your hooter, nothing like a good old sniffle to start the day, or end the day in your time zone. Have a good blow ED.

    ED: Thanks JB, sound advice, been doing that ALL day now, summery cold and pollen are a rotten combination.

  • Jack Madron // September 22, 2009 at 2:17 pm | Reply

    Am I on the right blog I am feeling grumpy ’cause I’ve got a guts ache. Grumps over.
    Ed.
    I think everybody is guilty of using the wrong blog, including me. I’m sure it’s not done deliberate. I try to follow the right blog, but some one makes a comment and I automatically reply. Wrong, I know but old dog, new tricks, thingy? Anyhow, mate. Put up with us, we may learn in time.

    ED: Thanks Jack, my ranting is well over now, ’nuff said (by me) on the matter. Let’s let things run as you suggest and regroup down in the butts in a few weeks time. There’s enough ammo for the troops to select from nowadays, if anybody gets bloggers foot from now on, so be it!

  • Sloop JB // September 22, 2009 at 7:23 pm | Reply

    Dave H,
    Good to hear from you again. Don’t know what they got up to in Bermuda but us Jamaica boys were tower of epitome, clean living and all that.

  • Dave H // September 23, 2009 at 4:47 am | Reply

    JB. Swanny has filled me in what went on in Bermuda, but my lips are sealed. But I’m sure you’ll read in some of the blogs, some of it, but if you contact Swanny maybe he will tell you the rest. I’m just glad I was with the MMGs in Jamaica, at least we didn’t suck up to the Officers.

  • Sloop JB // September 23, 2009 at 8:14 am | Reply

    Dave H,
    Good morning to you, are you telling me in a polite way that someone in Bermuda got their nose brown as well as their knees, or should I say their hair black, mind you’re not put on jankers to clean out that said cellar.

  • Sloop JB // September 23, 2009 at 1:20 pm | Reply

    ED,
    Have you been seeing red just lately or isn’t those red dust clouds down your way. Looks pretty grim over there at moment, no wonder you had the sniffles.

  • JT // September 23, 2009 at 4:39 pm | Reply

    Before I go. Ed refers to meeting down the butts.

    He may be embarrassed when I recall a long ago admission from him on the blog that he commanded a bunch of miscreants in the butts on Warwick ranges in Bermuda.

    They amused themselves by making bullet holes in targets with pencils. Is that the reason we might ask, why so many members of “A” Coy wore marksman badges?

    ED: Ahem, ’twas ectually Cpl Robbo Roberts that did the sticking M’Lud. So far as memory allows, there were very few decorated marksmen in Bermuda up to the end of ‘55. It was probably only after we “Old Soldiers” were demobbed, that with sod all to do, after all the hard work and standard setting had been achieved, that the CO decided to lower the bar for qualification.

  • Dave Hutchinson // September 23, 2009 at 11:27 pm | Reply

    Lost in a sand storm in OZ never to be seen again, hope the leader has his GPS wiff him.

    ED: Thanks for comment DH. We battened down the hatches yesterday, all doors and windows shut tight, when usually they are wide open. Visibility was almost zero. Our water restrictions have been lifted this weekend to permit sluicing down of all contaminated surfaces. Today is fine and sunny, clear and mild breezes.

  • Dave Hutchinson // September 24, 2009 at 3:46 am | Reply

    Glad things turned out OK for you Derek. Am going to email my lady cop friend on the Gold Coast, to see how she is making out.

  • JT // September 24, 2009 at 11:55 am | Reply

    Ed

    (JT) I believe that most if not all bloggers understand what you are trying to achieve in blog “discipline” but are clearly finding it very difficult to comply fully.

    ED: This I agree with, the emphasis being though on “difficulty in compliance” if in fact, which I suspect, bloggers are shooting from the hip and failing to read the header intention.

    (JT) It seems to me that some blogs will simply become unused if this is strictly carried out putting even more usage of the remainder which I think defeats the intent to limit size.

    ED: Well JT, this has already happened. The very 1st blog (“A” Coy) is not even visited, yet when I recently placed a link to facilitate this, this link was ignored and conversations opened in the referring page, which I have now blocked.

    (JT) For example the RSM Royffe blog:
    There must be a finite number of eligible entries regarding this,(probably it has now reached this stage). Once Margaret and Sylvia have contributed and the relatively few existing bloggers have recorded their memories of RSM Royffe and his daughters commented on his families domestic life in Jamaica, what then?

    ED: Well, how do we know this, and so what if it becomes dormant, it has achieved its purpose. I hope that many more subscriptions will eventuate, photos too. After all, the RSM was universally known to us all, there must be many more squaddies who have not yet emerged from the woodwork.

    (JT) Another Example: The MMG blog similarly involves Jack, Dave, Tom and Sloop and Sylvia. To avoid comments not related to their reminiscences of Jamaica or threads developing from these must limit the blog and it will die out fairly quickly.

    ED: Well so what if it lies dormant? Eventually an MMG related comment might pop up.

    (JT) In all the blogs topics change very quickly particularly when banter is introduced. As you say the reply function quickly becomes a problem when comments are coming on thick and fast as happens some days. This will be further complicated if the reply is shunted to another blog because it breaches the intended rules. This would only appeal to the blogger whose comment is being replied to and complicate the receiving blog. I think spontaneity would also suffer badly.

    ED: Agreed, the last issue that I want to deal with is ’shunting’ and I doubt that it will ever happen, ‘cos I don’t have the time or willingness to fire someone’s rifle for ‘em. That is just an option.

    (JT) I think the best to be striven for is that first comments must be on the appropriate blog and everyone does their best to ensure that at the end of the particular thread they do not continue with an new inappropriate (for the blog) topic.

    ED: Well hoofuckingray!

    • JT // September 24, 2009 at 4:29 pm | Reply

      Ed

      I think the “A” Coy blog was latterly rarely visited because there were about only 3 people using it: yourself, Swanny and me. We had to some extent exhausted our reminiscences and were beginning to repeat ourselves.

      Also the Re-Union blog very quickly took over from any habit of commenting on the A Coy blog.

      The creation of the MMG blog brought in the new dynamic of Jack then Dave and recently others. This provided much more opportunity for banter and still does as Sylvia has pointed out. I don’t think it was intended to restrict Sylvia to her Jamaica childhood comments was it?
      Also even with Jack and Dave (plus myself) for a long time the only contributors, there must have been a limit to their reminiscences about MMG Platoon. No others from the Bn joined.

      If the real problem is the size of these blogs do you think they could be at some stage if overloaded paused and archived with a new start?

      ED: I have never had premeditation about restricting comments, or indeed language. Indeed I have sought to encourage wider comment on a variety of topics by introducing separated pages for specific interests. As in my reply to DH’s comment regarding discipline, bloggers appear to me to fail totally, when first browsing the blog page header comment as to what the intent of that blog is and I again remark on the failed use of OLD BLOGGERS PHOTO PANORAMA/MEMORABILIA (maybe misnamed I agree) that was intended for NON MILITARY comment.

  • Sylvia // September 24, 2009 at 3:35 pm | Reply

    ED

    My grump is, that on the MMGs blog I mentioned that I could only talk about Jamaica from my families point of view as I was not in the Regiment. I asked you which blog I should use, or if I should be contributing at all. Your answer was that I should ‘keep the blogs coming’ no mention off which blog to use. Now we have a ‘General Allday Banter’ blog can I use this to:-
    1)chat about my Jamaica days from a family point of view, if I wish to mention Dad I will go on his blog,
    2) to take the pee out of the other bloggers as long as I am not ‘lewd’ and allow the other bloggers to take the pee out of me.
    3) to do everyday chit chat
    4)Talk about my memories of the past which have no connection with the Regiment.

    To pre-empt your answer, yes I did read the desciption at the top of the page, I don’t require you to fill up the blog with a never ending desciption. I would just like a yes or no to the above questions so I no longer annoy you by putting the above on the incorrect blog.

    ED: Yes to all questions.

    Grump over

    • JT // September 24, 2009 at 6:19 pm | Reply

      Sylvia

      I don’t think that was the situation at all (that you were only allowed to comment on family stuff on the MMG Blog) I am sure that the regular bloggers enjoyed your contributions immensely.

      Ed ?

  • JT // September 24, 2009 at 4:36 pm | Reply

    Dave

    Look here laddie, you’ll be blog smacked if get cheeky. Haven’t you got some moose calling to do today? That Miss Moose will be waiting for your call.

  • Editor in Brisbane // September 25, 2009 at 12:03 am | Reply

    HOLY MACKEREL (Hotlink video clip)

    Lookit all them fucking Indians!

    Talk about being surrounded by the Pawnee and the Cherokee. I feel like an Old Wild West settler on a buffalo drawn cart heading West.

    The discussion on blog discipline is now over for my part. I shall neither join nor comment further on this topic. If the blog system gets fucked – so be it. You all have ample choices to make over most known topics that include “OLD BLOGGER MATES PHOTO PANORAMA/MEMORABILIA”. Let’s see if you can apply self regulation.

    This includes spelling, Capitalising, paragraphing and misplacement of broken URL’s (Swanny!!!!). Follow the rules and you’ll do fine. Happy Blogging.

    Carpe Diem!

  • JT // September 25, 2009 at 11:19 am | Reply

    Ed

    I do believe that the regular bloggers want it to work as you require and all appreciate your creation and editing role. But I also think some genuinely do not understand and are worried about computer stuff. (It was only a year ago that I asked you what URL means.) and I have been using computers for many years for emails, databases, and spreadsheets etc.

    ED: The past 24 hours has seen a remarkable shift in blog discipline and resultant placement. General Banters Blog now surpasses ALL others, with Grumpy a near second. MMG is slowing down and might – just might – avoid a blocked bowel problem!

    My perusal of Blog Statistics shows an alltime high of nearly 2,200 views per week overall and close to 400 daily. ‘Hits’ are flowing in from many remotely cross connected sites (that’s not Comments – ‘Hits’ only). It shows that ‘Ole Grumpy’s’ point is made and squaddies are reacting to some good ole parade ground bollocking. Keep it up boys and girls and you’ll get your Marksman badges!

    PS: On the topic of ‘computer stuff, I comprehend entirely and encourage usage of the (fairly limited) Comment Blog Box options – i.e. URL (Universal Resource Locator or Website address) placement which most of you now can apply. (Swanny get your finger out!). I further want to see CAPITALS used to head up a Comment to summarise the content. By doing this the particular author will confirm in his/her own mind, what ’tis gunna be about!

    PPS: FOR THE PURIST

    Most PC’s/Macs have a “Wordpad” free text word processor, or better again M/S Word or Mac equivalent. An ‘author’ can compose a message here, get it right in every respect, and then cut/paste into whichever Blog Comment Box is applicable. Final editing can then be done. But as my then (little daughter) once said when told by her mother to ask me an answer to a question “I don’t want to know THAT much about it!”

    PPPS: Well surprise, surprise, some of you DID want to know after all! AND you read the suggestion AND you did summat abaht tit! Well done.

  • JT // September 25, 2009 at 1:45 pm | Reply

    Ed

    Now thats news (the bit about cutting and pasting word processing stuff)

  • Dave H // September 25, 2009 at 5:25 pm | Reply

    And i just used the computer to start up and run a bloody chemical plant , i didnt cut and past nothing just making sure the plant didnt blowup in my face , SO THERE

  • JT // September 25, 2009 at 6:51 pm | Reply

    Dave

    Better stick to cutting and pasting wall paper to cover those log walls in the cabin. Line em with sheet rock (?) first though.

    Make a nice change from those bear and wolf skins. Also if you are re decorating dump those scalps you’ve got scattered around the place They are so “yesterday” design wise.

  • Old Grumpy // September 26, 2009 at 12:21 am | Reply

    UPDATE, UPDATE!
    I note from Stats that attempts are made to open a few of the blog pages that have been (temporarily) dismounted for technical (part) reasons and pure bloody mindedness (on my part) – ‘cos they ain’t being used.

    Should you wish to enlighten us/me with some snippets of wordly wisdom (that are relevant to any of the ‘privatised’ blogs below) – drop me a line here and I’ll open ‘em.

    “A” COY LINK, 1DCLI MEMOIRS, DCLI, EMPIRE CLYDE ASSN, KOREA, KSLI, LEWD & BAWDY JOKES, NOSTALGIA OLD TOONS, RHYME OR REASON, WILD & WICKED, XMAS 2008.

    Geddit?

  • SWANNY SWANSON // September 26, 2009 at 8:41 am | Reply

    ED, Do you mean we could have these blogs back on. I think with all our blog mates, perhaps you could reinstate;- ie Wild and Wicked, Lewd and Bawdy as perhaps since our membership has grown in past months they might like to peruse these old blogs and shed some light on those old blogs if they have not seen them.

    ED: Swanny, you make a point – which of course (as the Old Cussed Prat that I am) I am ‘fishing’ for. BUT – at a price!

    Firstly, you (of all Old Mates) read the comments that pertain to YOUR ‘broken URLs’ and fix ‘em! – which I do and am tired of so doing!

    Secondly, (now that Blog Discipline is being applied) I’ll open Wise & Wicked PROVIDED that the existing blogs that are now operational are used properly. There is absolutely no point in retracing hard won issues, if we fall into the old poor habits.

    Thirdly, you send a fresh comment, corrected with your broken URL (as instructed) and I’ll fulfill my promise.

  • Editor // September 27, 2009 at 12:04 am | Reply

    CAPITAL HEADINGS (That are transformed into ‘links’ in the editing function)

    OK Cheps, some of you are wondering why I’m pushing the CAPITALS bit and harping and carping on at poor Ole Swanny about ‘broken URLs’. Here’s why.

    So far,some of you have learned how to ‘link’ your Name in the appropriate space/s of the Comment Box and the need to have a FULL and UNBROKEN URL in that space. You’ve (some that is) also learned how to accurately cut/paste from external articles, that can be other Author’s work or your own in Wordpad, Word or Mac thinggies.

    Let me give an example now, to take you to this more advanced option. Let’s say that Jack Madron seeks to create discussion on St Michael’s Mount and wishes also to embellish his Comment with a photo or two. The photos that he chooses can be allocated to a specific URL via Picasa. The 1st URL is then inserted into his Comment, in the (singular) space when he logs in a Comment. Let’s say that Jack lives in the Admiral Benbow! Supposing also he wishes to refer to an additional photo of SMM in the body text of his Comment. The 2nd URL is entered up under the CAPITAL heading of his comment and Ed will then ‘doctor’ the comment to link that 2nd URL to the Comment Title. Geddit?

    Following are the URL’s applicable that are going to be ‘linked’ into his Comment. See the following pseudo JM Comment

    http://picasaweb.google.com.au/djkl157/Jack1#

    http://picasaweb.google.com.au/djkl157/Jack2#

    Both the above URLs will be concealed in Jack’s pretend Comment that follows. And OK, smartarses, before you ask that question “Why not just leave the URLs as is”. The reason is you’ll get spammed by Akismet if you show raw URLs in body text. Plus the fact that I don’t want URLs plastered all through Comments. S’like having yer puttees unrolling when yer marching!

  • Ed using Jack Madron's name as an example // September 27, 2009 at 12:08 am | Reply

    ST MICHAEL’S MOUNT
    I want you all to benefit from my research. As an Ancient Cornish Buccaneer I have discovered that there is a hoard of Spanish Doubloons in a cave on SMM. I’m offering shares in a venture to recover the loot. Each share is GBP1,000. Send to my Bank Account early, ‘cos this is a limited offer!

    Best Regards, your dear and trusted friend and Old Soldier Mate, Jack

  • Dave H // September 27, 2009 at 12:12 am | Reply

    I think we know who this is for.

    ED: Oh Yeah, Well that’s my policy!

    But this has appeal, I’ll leave it with you (smile).

  • JT // September 27, 2009 at 10:45 am | Reply

    Jack you got all that ?

  • Smart Arse // September 27, 2009 at 10:49 am | Reply

    I got it Massa !

    Wots a URL ?

  • JT // September 27, 2009 at 7:31 pm | Reply

    Clear as ?

    ED: Gotta larf don’tcha?

  • David // September 27, 2009 at 11:41 pm | Reply

    Something tell me that Massa like Dirty Harry , and want to be like him , But Massa NOT 21 anymore and not in the army and got no stripes , and only got a big knife like Crocodile Dundee, and a Spear gun.

    ED:
    “Big Massa” and Ed, not the same
    Despite inferences t’others might claim,
    Old Harry though – he takes no shit,
    From the many – who (him) no likee one bit.
    But beware! – Old Grumpy can play the same game.

  • JT // September 28, 2009 at 4:59 am | Reply

    Ed

    So are you saying that we can post our own photo? How does that work?

    ED: OK, JT. Short answer NO! (except as a URL placed in the Comment Box, as you would your You Tube clips.) WordPress denies placement of graphic files within Comments, otherwise I would have utilised that option many moons ago.

    However the alternatives outlined earlier (create a URL for your photo) will work if those steps are followed. My recommendation follows:-

    Step 1. Decide if more than a single photo is to be published. Either way, a URL for the single/multiple files needs to be created.

    Step 2. Apply Picasa 3 (or a Mac alternative) and post to the WWW. I can talk you through this.

    Step 3. When a Picasa Album is created with it’s own URL, you can then post to Comment Box (to underline your Name) OR write a Comment in the usual way with a CAPITAL HEADING, include the FULL URL and I will ‘doctor’ for you, OR mail URL address to me to upload into “Old Mates Picasa Albums” etc.

    NB. Note you will probably get spammed (not lost – just parked) until I clear it.

    Geddit?

    PS: Let me outline a f’rinstance. Tom Howell has emailed me several Jamaica .jpeg files that might be of interest. I shall upload from the email attachment, ‘doctor’ in Adobe and upload to Picasa (to create a URL). I shall then create a fresh BOLDED Picasa Album in Tom’s name and post to “Old Mates Picasa Albums (Military)”. Tom can then (if he chooses) copy that URL and place it in the Comment Box (when he next blogs) and it will appear as an underline to his name. He can then make body text references to those images if he wishes. OR, I can do it all for him. Geddit?

    PPS: JT, this has now been executed insofar as it’s been done for him. His name on that particular Comment is underlined/linked AND I’ve inserted into a bolded caption at the end of the body text. Both achieving a ‘hotlink’.

    PPPS: Dunno about you lot, but I’m finding MMGs a problem to load (1,221 comments out of a TOTAL of ALL blog comments of 6,114). I won’t say it – BULLSHIT!! - I told you so!

  • JT // September 28, 2009 at 5:17 am | Reply

    Derek

    Re Picasa

    On my mac I have iPhoto. Is that the same sort of thing?

    ED: Not certain, but fairly sure you can download Picasa for Mac anyway. This is best option (IMHO) as Picasa can be viewed on Macs, even from a PC.

  • Tom Howell // September 28, 2009 at 9:33 am | Reply

    ED
    Thank you for your prompt action. Hopefully there will be people out there who may find them of interest. The colour ones were taken by me whilst on holiday and I took a ‘ round island bus trip’ that included Newcastle (about 1990/91). When I have more time I will check out the options you describe to JT.

    ED: Thank you in turn Tom for adding to our growing Picasa Collection. I ‘lost’ the B/W shot of ‘Storm over Kingston’ – sorry about that.

  • Editor // September 28, 2009 at 12:25 pm | Reply

    20% OF ALL LI BLOGS (OLD & NEW) LOGGED ON MMG

    I said that I would not comment on this topic again. I lied! In a short 6 months (mainly during the past 2 months) this blog has gobbled up 20% of storage so far allocated to the entire 3 year enterprise of LI blogs and you wonder why I’m pissed off!

    MMG was kicked off to facilitate Vickers, Jamaica & “S” Coy anecdotal recall, mainly between Jack & Dave and for ALL others with related interests. Through no one’s fault in particular (probably mine – who else?) it grew like Topsy with unrelated banter, when alternative blogs were/are available.

    My broadband cable bandwidth is pretty good, but even today I face over 30 seconds to load this page, and I have no choice but to load it for technical reasons that probably nobody would be interested with.

    I have some choices – so herewith an ultimatum! Shall I offload ALL the unrelated Comments? OR shall we persevere with the correct usage of the blog, now that alternatives are available. OR do I archive (in due course) and raise MMG (2).

    YOUR choices boys and girls BUT, please oh please “risten to me prease” – horses for courses. Geddit?

  • JT // September 28, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Reply

    Ed

    I think the problem remains. See the past few days on MMG Jamaica Blog. The article I put in re Newcastle I think was relevant and so are the replies. Do you agree ?

    This debate will be endless and is irritating and will inhibit comments from some people altogether. So something should be done.

    I have recently added comments to the other blogs no one else contributing

    My own view since you ask for it is to when appropriate block further comments and start MMG 2. Will others please add your opinions on this.

    ED: Thanks for valued comment. MMG2 it is by consensus and I’ll automatically cap off at 1,000 comments to avoid future problems. Other than that, all’s fine, everybody is blogging well!

  • JT // September 28, 2009 at 2:56 pm | Reply

    Ed

    To clarify to all would you kindly note “unrelated comments” since 24th Sept on MMG blog which seems to be the blog causing concern at present and is carrying heavy traffic.

    Thanks

    ED: Noted JT, matter now dealt with. My relevant comment on this matter applied to pre 24th. MMG2 about to appear.

  • Dave H // September 28, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Reply

    My input is , get rid of world press , as i have mentioned before , I belong to a Forum , and there are no problems with how much space , and one can upload their pictures with out all that bullshit Derek has mentioned ,

    ED: Thanks DH, WordPress is probably the best overall and offers a wide range of options for issues that never appear – thus far. As already stated, I appreciate everyone’s response and we’ll travel with a fresh MMG2 blog and cap off at 1,000 comments to avoid bandwidth issues, which is related more (I guess) to local supply, more so than WordPress. Just a little comment broadcast though, ALL platforms have limitations, particularly at the editing face.

    PS: (Added 1216 GMT, 29th Sept) For the purists who might care to know that ‘bullshit’ in relation to WordPress is probably quite careless talk. See my dissertation to DH on ‘Unbelievable’ blog, where I believe some quite sophisticated opinion is fairly convincing! However we do all have our individual views!

  • Sylvia // September 28, 2009 at 6:40 pm | Reply

    I’m not sure if I should join this debate, as it was me that mis-interpreted the use of the blog in the first place. I genuinely thought that as the title had Jamaica in it, that it was OK for me to place a comment there. So firstly, let me apologise, after our recent debate I realise how wrong I was. As I don’t want to be seen to be ’sitting on the fence’ in my humble opinion it will be less bother to close the old one and open a new one, rather than move the comments that don’t belong there ,and I promise not to mis-use it. Just one comment, the Newcastle comment I believe should have been on that blog.

    ED: Thanks Sylvia. MMG2 about to appear. No further debate required.

  • Editor in Brisbane // September 28, 2009 at 8:13 pm | Reply

    MMG2

    I shall today (later in OZ) open MMG2, but will keep the original open for (say) 48 hours or so to permit closure on topics under discussion. It’ll then remain published for viewing only, until it fades away.

    Jack and Dave’s photos will be duplicated in a Picasa Album on the appropriate blog.

    Thank you all for your quick response.

    PS: Belay the 48 hours reference. MMGs (OLD) NOW CLOSED

  • Old Grumpy // September 29, 2009 at 4:01 am | Reply

    BLOGGER MATES

    Now that everyone (?) is feeling warm and fuzzy, it might be an appropriate time to add further confusion (!!) in re-introducing the above, which is (apart from Dave H’s contributions) falling into disuse.

    As I work on Jack Madron’s Picasa Album (which includes some civilian photos) it occurs that (maybe) the ladies (especially) would like to be added to ‘The Clan’ and send me some civilian pix of cats, dogs and flowers etc and/or personal details so that Birfday Wishes can abound. (Ladies, you can leave orf the year if you wish).

    Corny and Bill Griffiths have early October birthdays looming; so Happy Birthday you two and many of ‘em.

    Let me know in due course – no rush – but I shall tidy up the pages.

    • Sylvia // September 29, 2009 at 9:07 pm | Reply

      Ed

      We would be delighted to have our mug shots put on here, the only problem I have is that they might frighten the children!

      Joking aside, the only photos we have include the whole family, whose permission I would like to seek before submitting them. I am sure it will be OK but Margaret is on holiday now, so it will be a while before it can be done. I will asked my eldest nephew to send them to you as he understands how you want them. Thanks for asking. My birthday is 18-10-47, that makes me 62 this year, save you getting calculators out.

      ED: Sylvia, we shall prefer to show head/shoulders shots of Blogger Mates, so I can crop from family group shots. You do however raise an interesting point, when publishing family photos. I shall automatically assume permission if sent to me unless instructed otherwise. Birfday coming up!

  • Dave H // September 30, 2009 at 5:13 pm | Reply

    JB must have gone to Africa , , I see they found a big Diamond , His mine will be back in operation soon i bet

  • Sloop JB // September 30, 2009 at 7:25 pm | Reply

    Dave H,
    Sorry I’ve been awol for a while but I’ve been trying to take on board all thats been going on with all the Blogs. Can’t say as I can understand it all even now. How have you been lately, not too desolate I hope. If I had a diamond that big I’d sell it and pay you a visit on the proceeds then we could both go to the coffee shop.

  • Dave H // September 30, 2009 at 11:38 pm | Reply

    Sorry JB that post was meant for JT , But if you do find a Diamond , Come on over , but its JT that has that mine in Africa , and if he does find that big stone we should kidnap him

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 1, 2009 at 12:26 am | Reply

    OLD BLOGGER MATES PHOTO PANORAMA UPDATED.

    Travel on the above hotlink to London John and click the frog. This is an initiative test. Brownie points are awarded and/or (maybe) Stick Orderly!

    NB: Comments on the referred Blogs are in reverse date order, latest first (we had a technical problem, before you ask!)

    • Dave H // October 1, 2009 at 2:59 am | Reply

      Derek you mention stick orderly , ,as i always suspected , and i got it from a good source that those that were selected for the stick were the chosen ones , you know brown noses ,

      • Editor in Brisbane // October 1, 2009 at 4:45 am | Reply

        Ooohh! Pistols at dawn DH. Some of we “A” Company lads set a few Stick Orderly records when we were Privates. I personally was only ever beaten once – by Bill Edwards, on our 1st Bermuda Quarter Guard and George Kent (the navel inspector) was Orderly Hossifer.

        No fucking way would I have brown-nosed him, or any of ‘em for that matter. I had no respect for Junior Hossifers anyway, especially the N/S creeps. My money was always on the Senior NCOs so far as military nouse was concerned. “Toots” Williams and Tony Marsh, our respective CO’s were complete Soldiers.

  • Dave H // October 1, 2009 at 5:09 am | Reply

    So Derek. Tell me how were they selected, now be honest.

    ED: Merit – pure merit DH. We were the 16th Intake (Nov 53) and Swanny was already an Old Soldier from July that year, but through illness had been put back. He had an edge on most of we rookies in 3 Platoon so far as bulling kit etc was concerned, but also in fairness, he was a smart man and won his Sticks through pure good soldiering. I can’t ever remember he and I being on duty together though, ‘cos in my experience the taller blokes were selected.

    In the early days at Prospect, we generally had Hossifers on Parade for Quarter Guard mounting, only later in that year (1954) and into 1955 did we see the CSM (Jock Massie and then later, Jan Passmore) mount the Guard. In 1955, often we Junior NCOs would mount the Guard also and sometimes ’twas a difficult choice between some very smart soldiers.

    You know Dave, all bullshit aside, “A” Company consisted of relatively few soldiers, compared to the Battalion in Jamaica. Guard Duties came around very often and some of us were exempted from Quarter Guards, being ‘Special Guardsmen’ – a weekly Ceremonial in Hamilton. From 3 rifle platoons in the beginning, growing to 4 rifle platoons, allowing for NCOs, sick parades and other duties, probably a private soldier was rostered every 16 days or so. I recall that all together as a private soldier, I scored over 25 Sticks and not a shred of a brown nose!

  • Jack Madron // October 1, 2009 at 12:32 pm | Reply

    Dave.
    I only got Stick Orderly twice. Once in Minden and once in Kingston. The one in Kingston was the only guard I did as a Private so it must have been not long after arriving in Jamaica as I got promoted in May 54.

  • Dave H utchinson // October 1, 2009 at 5:26 pm | Reply

    Well i did aprox 20 guards in all , hey and i was no slob , I wish my buddy would get hisself on here and tell it like it is , Im sure there was some favouritism in some cases

    • Jack Madron // October 1, 2009 at 8:28 pm | Reply

      Probably was Dave. Lt Hodder was Orderly Officer when I got my first stick in Minden. I remember it well. Guard mounted in the cookhouse because of the heavy rain outside.

  • Sloop JB // October 1, 2009 at 7:37 pm | Reply

    All,
    The only thing I remember about doing Guard was having a Rifle in your hands and no ammunition to go with it, not a lot of chance defending anything if need be, always looked forward to the cup of tea though.

    • Jack Madron // October 1, 2009 at 8:23 pm | Reply

      Tea. You mean that brown stewed stuff we got in a bucket that dissolved spoons ? That is, If you could get a spoon into it. It was hot though.

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 2, 2009 at 5:54 am | Reply

    BARRY CORNISH

    Happy Birthday Barry. What’s it to be this year? white water rafting over Niagara, or wrestling Polar Bears in Alaska?

  • Editor // October 2, 2009 at 11:35 pm | Reply

    BILL GRIFFITHS BIRTHDAY

    I haven’t heard from the Sgnt Major since his return (hopefully) from HK. However he has a birthday coming up on the 5th October. Have a great day Bill and not too many pints from your landlord mates.

    • Jack Madron // October 2, 2009 at 11:52 pm | Reply

      Ed.
      Can’t forget Bill’s birthday. Same date as my wedding anniversary.
      Long way to go to catch up Swanny. All that soldiering in Jamaica taught me to run faster so I tasted freedom longer than him.
      Anyhow Bill. Happy birthday for Monday.

  • Dave H // October 3, 2009 at 5:13 am | Reply

    Have a great day Bill

  • SWANNY SWANSON // October 3, 2009 at 9:24 am | Reply

    Happy Birthday on Monday Bill.

  • Sloop JB // October 3, 2009 at 8:21 pm | Reply

    Bill
    Dont know you from Adam but I’d like to wish you A Happy Birthday on monday, have a good one.

  • JT // October 3, 2009 at 10:15 pm | Reply

    Billy Boy

    You back from FARELF yet ?

    Happy Birthday lad.

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 4, 2009 at 6:13 am | Reply

    MESSAGE FOR SLOOP

    JB, I’m building a new page entitled Taunton Sloop and need some civilian stuff from you to develop the front page. If you are interested, please send me some .jpegs – other than those military ones that are on Picasa, trips, hobbies, places, holidays, crimes etc.

    Show these Old Bloggers up Mate – they’re dragging their heels.

    • Editor in Brisbane // October 9, 2009 at 1:26 am | Reply

      SLOOP PAGE UPDATED

      Sloop now has his own ‘civilian’ page on Old Bloggers Photo Panorama, linked to the LI Most Wanted page showing his (amended) photo.

      Thanks JB for your prompt attention. I never realised that Taunton was so good on the eye. Weather fine too!

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 5, 2009 at 12:20 am | Reply

    GOTTA SEE NORMAN WISDOM CLIP

    THEN THIS ‘UN

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 5, 2009 at 1:11 am | Reply

    HERO OR VILLAIN?

    Not to be taken seriously. Gotta Larf!

  • Dave H // October 5, 2009 at 6:38 am | Reply

    Must show my friend that one he was in the Canadian Paras

  • JT // October 7, 2009 at 6:46 pm | Reply

    Derek

    Norman Wisdom stuff is brilliant.

  • JT // October 7, 2009 at 6:48 pm | Reply

    Ed

    Well Bernard Manning seems so unreal nowadays after we have been brain washed for so long.

    Still can raise a laugh though

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 11, 2009 at 10:48 pm | Reply

    A CHANGE OF PACE?

    MAD DOGS & ENGLISHMEN

    Kenneth Williams in form.

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 12, 2009 at 1:20 am | Reply

    CRUNCHY FROG CHOCOLATES & OTHER DELICACIES

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 12, 2009 at 10:09 am | Reply

    REVOLT AGAINST PARLIAMENT, THE KING AND THE HOUSE OF LORDS

    We are approaching 5th November, which Anniversary of Guy Fawkes and his Plotters’ revolt (1605) to change the public’s view of anti-Catholicism English law, reached what in 21st century terms is absolute terrorism and would rightfully so, be condemned as an outrageous attempt to thwart the law of the land.

    I’m mindful too, of my most recent personal visit to HP – last July – and to observe the security that extends to the footpath perimeter. Trustfully such violent behaviour would be forestalled long before the cellars were breached.

    It does however bring to mind the potential, possible reaction that deceived and defenceless voters, would like to attempt on the mass of worthless lying, thieving MPs, who have accepted the trust of their constituents, yet snuffle at the trough of public, taxpayer granted benefits, and who now seek to deny their liabilities.

    See the Daily Telegraph article kindly forwarded by JT today and now hotlinked to the drawing at the page header. The bolded heading is also hotlinked to an historical archive.

    PS: (added 13th October 2009)

    SHAMEFUL! LIAR! CHEAT! UNWORTHY! RESIGN! DISHONOURABLE BASTARD!

    Here you have it. The ‘Leader’ (so-called) of Grated Britain. What a fucking debacle. Fall on your sword you prick!

  • Jt // October 15, 2009 at 10:51 am | Reply

    Marble Arch is the site of the old “Tyburn Tree” a place of public hanging.

    Reinstate it for use prior the the General Election. No need to demolish the arch it is perfect for hanging.

  • Jack Madron // October 15, 2009 at 11:21 am | Reply

    Old saying.
    “Better the Devil You Know than the Devil You Don’t”.
    Chinless inbreds. No thanks.

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 21, 2009 at 11:55 pm | Reply

    BLOGGING IN PERPETUITY

    We are a global community, where some regulars are gathered in a localised area (West Cornwall), but where mostly, we are scattered to Lunnun, the Wess Midlunz, Wess Vinglun, Summerset (krek waiter’s peak Bristle), Canada and OZ. Other ‘casuals’ dwell elsewhere (often unknown to any of us).

    Seems reasonable that a close relative (Missus, Hubby, Son, Daughter etc) would be email equipped and/or forearmed with the instruction to write a simple blog comment that “Old Harry” has crossed over the River Styx – etc etc. – in the event that the final bugle call is sounded.

    Dave H. has just made a point on another blog page that some bloggers have no computer friendly family member, immediately to hand. In which case a phone number or snailmail address would, I know, avoid some angst to those concerned enough who wish to be kept informed.

  • Editor // October 24, 2009 at 1:54 am | Reply

    EDITORIAL COMMENT

    Recent activity on the General Banter blog indicates the (possible) need to publicise MULTIPLE You Tube clips and/or web site URLs. Those who comprehend the cut/paste function (for accurate URL referencing) might appreciate the following suggestion.

    Consider that when your Comment is being read by another/s, how convenient it might be to have one of several (say 3 or 4 song titles) hotlinked Titles – within the body text. You could then, perhaps produce a Comment that is more than just KRAP, BS or FN.

    Simply cut/paste your chosen URL/URLs into the Comment body text, separate with a space, add a comment or two or three and “Submit”. Don’t be concerned if at first it disappears – it is being held ‘for Editor approval’ (this is Spamming Control). Ed will then convert the URL and embolden into a suitable Title that is hotlinked for quick open and close by your reader.

    (Added 25th Oct). Travel to my comment today to Rusty Fraser on the re-opened “Nostalgia Old Toons” to view an example of a URL converted insertion into a Comment.

    NB: As an aside. If this function is of no interest then don’t bother to expand a B/S debate on the topic. Leave it to others who are progressive or, just try it out, and I’ll guide you through. Close yer eyes and pray for England. God knows, she needs it!

  • Editor in Brisbane // October 25, 2009 at 12:22 am | Reply

    FACTS – AS ALF WOULD SAY

    S’obvious innit? Comments anywhere, but mainly (to date) on General Banter, will disappear from page view unless a reader scans/browses ALL the comments. In which case, the topic of the moment (say a song title) will be ‘lost’ unless some effort is made to search and then open the You Tube link (if made).

    Given interest, I shall re-open ‘Old Toons’ which offers an immediate connection to a linked Song Title. Follow the instructions at the page header there, or from existing examples and Ed will be happy to oblige.

  • Editor // October 26, 2009 at 4:24 am | Reply

    HOUSEKEEPING

    In the interests of speedier site loading (hopefully) I have un-published several older blog pages that were “View” only or superseded by later editions. Those of you who wish to view these original sites – let me know here – and I’ll re-instate ‘em for a while. I further intend to cull back even further on some disused pages. This’ll test the interest!

    NB: Look before you leap! By request last month I reinstated Wise & Wicked, DCLI, Rhyme or Reason. Guess what? – no bloody feedback whatsoever, which proves to me that most (!) bloggers are only interested in the current comment of the day and little of the history of the blog sites. A little proactivity will go along way, rather than the harsher reactive complaints that I seem only to receive. (There are welcome exceptions to that last comment). Prove me wrong and make my day!

  • Sylvia // October 26, 2009 at 10:19 am | Reply

    UNITED KINGDOM MILITARY MARCH
    The British Grenadiers, Minden.

    ED, Just testing your instructions, How am I doing?

    ED REPLY: Well Done Sylvia and Thank You, how simple was that! All that was needed at my end was to open the URL, read its title, create a BOLDED HEADING and Presto!

    Now, lets take it a stage further (say) and repeat this exercise with 2 – 3 more URLs, add some text in between each separated URL (make sure you don’t run ‘em in together) and presto again, you have a ‘running’ comment which contains a number of BOLDED TITLES.

    Now, the inevitable smartarse will say – “why not leave the URLs” (thats the http:// etc etc). Well the answer to that is, firstly you can end up with a broken, untested link (that goes nowhere) and secondly you finish up with a horrible looking lump of text that is impossible to decipher.

    PS: This arrangement would be useful (say) when the writer seeks to articulate comment between different song titles/artists in the same Comment.

    PPS: We have still not overcome the fact however, that this Comment will ‘disappear’ and be overtaken by fresher Comments and anyone wishing to play your selections off this Comment will need to back track, (given that they remember where to look for it) and open the link. If you seek to preserve this Title (United Kingdom Military March), then it is best listed on ‘Old Toons’. For that option, simply open up ‘Old Toons’ and follow the instructions for a requested listing.

    • Sylvia // October 26, 2009 at 11:51 am | Reply

      OK here goes

      Schubert’s ‘Military March’ Tausig Transcription played by Cziffra Audio + Sheet Music

      And again. (Could be any text matter)

      TOM JONES – DELILAH

      And again (More text matter if desired)

      Adam Faith. What Do You Want.

      And again (Same as above)

      How was that? Don’t really want these saved, just trying to help

      ED REPLY: Well Done again Sylvia. Full Marks, easy ‘innit? Let’s just clarify a coupla points here. Firstly, your Comment containing the 3 URLs was “Spammed” – so you at your end would have noticed it disappearing – until – the editing process was completed and then the finished article ’sanctioned OK’ and presto -published to view. (Read the following Comment for clarification).

      Secondly, this exercise proves something dunnit? Let’s say that you Sylvia attended an Andre Rieu Concert and had your photo taken with Andre, which I then published to Picasa (and gave it a URL). You then could link your name ‘Sylvia’ which would be clickable to view from your Comment, plus each of (say) 3 – 4 selected tunes/ditties from the hypothetical Concert could have been referred in the body comment of the Comment. Geddit Cheps?

      PS: Mind You – all credit to Sylvia – took a woman to show how its done!

      PPS: OR! – Any clickable (hotlinked) photo of Sylvia, published at the blog page header, could be hotlinked to a (single) music URL, and presto – again – the chosen ditty.

      PPPS: If you were a bloke Sylvia, you’d get Stick Orderly for the Quarter Guard!

      • Sylvia // October 26, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Reply

        ED

        What happened my end was, my comment stayed on view, but said ‘awaiting modification’ just for info in case anyone gets worried.

        I’ll default to the other blogs now, but does this mean I can come off the naughty step, I am getting a numb bum!

        ED: Of course Scholar! – Have a porcupine sandwich and a cup of nettle tea.

        PS: I appreciate the feedback re the ‘awaiting modification’ signal. That’s unviewed by me at the editorial end whenever I subscribe ‘cos I’m always in Edit Mode. There are clearly various stages in the “accept” platform, some are ’spammed’ and await release/approval, yours in this case (at my end) was displayed in faint yellow colour, but waiting processing.

  • Terry Joll // October 27, 2009 at 10:50 pm | Reply

    I am not baffled, I am fffffff ing baffled.

    All this technical jargon is making me even more confused if that is possible. I will stick to the simple life in future as I cannot stand being bollocked. Have a nice day.

    Terry

    ED: I sense that you are not Robinson Crusoe, Terry. You’ll find from henceforward that the previous ‘universal bollocking’ has achieved its purpose and has put this DCLI Blog system where it was designed to be originally. Nice and quiet – ish, with appropriate remarks placed where they were/are expected to be – just like “Dress from the right!”. Just ignore the technical stuff if it doesn’t apply!

    PS: Despite opposition from some bloggers, (NOT you Terry), the Editor intends to slowly introduce ‘technical’ features that may/may not have some appeal. This simply affords the application of the hightech features of WordPress, which – so far – are little used. In particular is the use of ‘links’ – to photos, banner headings and You Tube clips, that are finding wide appeal for reference among the reader/bloggers on this site. Since the Caribbean Re-Union, the Editor needed an uncomplicated method to show/promote the display of photographs that were taken by him at the time, and flooded later into his computer from others. Picasa Albums and the subsequent ‘hotlink’ method to publish a large collection of photos is now perfected through ‘technical advancement’.

    PPS: So that readers of this Comment from Terry Joll, and Ed’s reply/ies understand the position, this “British LI Most Wanted” blog site was never, ever established to compete with other social networking platforms that are popular elsewhere. It has however, evolved into a daily exchange of repartee that started off with DCLI/Military anecdotes, but has now further evolved – not unexpectedly – into a wider base for wicked humour, pisstaking, political comment and Old Mates supportive exchanges. This is perfectly acceptable, provided that bloggers respect the (now) rigidly imposed disciplines.

  • Terry Joll // October 30, 2009 at 10:24 pm | Reply

    Did anyone see the article in the Sun about some non white bar steward working at an Asda store refuse to serve a lady wearing a Help for Heroes Wristband. The Manager even backed up the assistant. What the hell is happening in this country.

    I only wish some bar steward would refuse to serve me but they no doubt realise that I would let them have it both barrels at once and a bit of verbal Sergeant Majors thrown in for good measure. I would wipe the floor with them and the Manager also.
    Terry

    SUN NEWSPAPER ARTICLE (HOTLINKED)

    ED: Hear, Hear, Terry. Needs a truckload of squaddies in uniform in the store, all with trollies full of groceries and a Union Jack sticking out and then a mass exodus at the checkout, leaving a grocery jam (!) or would that be a pickle? Be interesting then to see how the bar-stewards handle that bit of sauce.

    PS: ‘Corse there’s a denial from Management. Wonder how the bar-steward Asian prick would handle a Nazi Swastika or a Support the Taliban T Shirt (if there were such a miserable object?). Probably give ‘em a discount! What about a Mossie female customer with a push-up bra, without a burkha? Ted Bear’ll have summat to say about that!

  • Editor in Brisbane // November 2, 2009 at 6:51 am | Reply

    The Old Farts in retirement, agree
    That good hobbies done well, will help see,
    Each day to pass slowly,
    Give help to the lowly, and
    Avoid boredom and most misery!

  • Sloop JB // November 7, 2009 at 3:28 pm | Reply

    ED

    I can do it.

    ED: Well Done Sloop.

  • Sloop JB // November 7, 2009 at 3:36 pm | Reply

    My son Steve has made me an idiots guide to follow and I’ve done it several times alone before submitting.

  • Sloop JB // November 7, 2009 at 6:11 pm | Reply

    ED
    I’m finding the next bit more brain stretching, but I will get there.

  • Editor in Brisbane // November 7, 2009 at 7:36 pm | Reply

    TIMESTAMP

    Above time in OZ is 10 hours on, so ’tis early a.m. as I type. Just to emphasise a point regarding ‘Multiple URL Selection Insertion Comment’ (MUSIC) that Sloop is now perfecting. The Spam filter Akismet reads such a Comment as “SPAM” and parks it for ‘Approval’. At your end it is so notified BUT, on occasions (due to the type of URL) you MAY NOT see anything at all, which means that it is awaiting ‘Acceptance’. No need to re-send unless I advise you.

    Well Done Sloop, Stick Orderly for you!

  • Editor in Brisbane // November 8, 2009 at 11:04 pm | Reply

    GENERAL NOTICE

    Sloops’s latest ascension into the ranks of MUSIC apostles has promoted his interest in using the ‘Nostalgia Old Toons’ site (which I recently resurrected). Geddit – smartarses?

    Given however, that a writer wishes to list the chosen Song Title at that Page Header (an editorial function) rather than a Comment listing, you will need to refer to the very original instruction on ‘how to’ etc.

    Remember also that Copyright entitlements will often lead to a You Tube dismount and the URL will disappear without notice and appear ‘broken’ over time, until another alternative can (maybe) be found.

    None of this matters if you the writer, are aware that URLs posted into Comments will get overtaken in the short time and ‘lost’ in history.

    Geddit?

    PS: The same applies to Picasa Albums, which if ‘Civilian’ can be listed on your Old Blogger Mates (Civilian) site, if you have one, but I need you to advise me please.

  • Sloop JB // November 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm | Reply

    ED

    Thank you once again

  • Sloop JB // November 13, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Reply

    Poo

    ED: Er, Sloop, is it this Pooh that you wanted to link?

    • Sloop JB // November 14, 2009 at 11:15 am | Reply

      ED

      Not exactly, I realised I’d made a mistake with the music and I was expressing my disgust, but you recovered the situation most admirably.

  • Sloop JB // November 14, 2009 at 2:23 pm | Reply

    ED

    I’ve done it right dad

  • Editor in Brisbane // November 22, 2009 at 12:17 am | Reply

    ONE VERY, VERY PISSED OFF EDITOR

    It has been drawn to my attention by Johan Weigmann of The Netherlands that on December 9th there is offered for sale ALL of the Lt Col Tony Marsh Medals and Photos, by the Marsh family.

    Most of you will know of the lengths and industry that Barry Cornish, myself personally and others have undertaken to gain the co-operation of the Marsh Family, particularly Simon Marsh, to have the Bermuda component of “OUR HISTORY” offered for OUR publication. Simon Marsh has ignored all ministrations thus far – and now is (without much doubt) selling – selling the fucking lot on the open market!

    I have contacted Hugo White at The Keep to advise him and in turn the Museum Trustees of this event, but if anyone out there can lend weight to rectifying a great wrong, I’d appreciate a contact.

  • JT // November 22, 2009 at 3:55 am | Reply

    Ed

    Pathetic

    What kind of money would be involved do you think ?

    So do you think the Museum would make an offer ?

    • Editor in Brisbane // November 22, 2009 at 5:54 am | Reply

      JT, that’s a good question at this stage. I have no yardstick for medal values, would have thought that the more ‘usual’ medals (i.e. NOT V.C.) would not be in demand unless there was a Regimental connection. Which is exactly the point of your question and which I have addressed to the Museum, via Hugo White. The sickening aspect of this sordid offer is that; if it is for money, then so much for the Family respect of the gallant Major, but if not financially driven, then where is the desire to ensure that the Memorabilia winds up in the right hands. (Both the SAS and the DCLI Museums).

      Thirdly of course, is my reasoning in that so far as the DCLI Bermuda portion of the Auction Lot – it does in effect ‘belong’ to us of the ‘larger family’. I am really pissed off over this, as both Barry and I – and others – have made repetitive overtures to Simon Marsh AND his offspring to support us – across the board and apart from one small contribution from a grandson – SFA – not even a courteous reply to the many snailmailed letters.

      I wish now that I’d thumped on Simon’s front fucking door when I was in GB last June.

      The interesting part of the Offer is that some of the photos offered are ‘hitherto unpublished’, when in fact some are so published on OUR Blog site and so sanctioned by Johan in The Netherlands. The question of copyright will no doubt emerge, which I hope bites the Vendor on the ass.

  • Sloop JB // November 22, 2009 at 11:04 am | Reply

    Derek

    Step back take a deep breath, we don’t want you to have a heart attack.

    In as much as all the work you boys have put into the project don’t make yourself ill over it. Should the Museum show interest in the memorabilia perhaps the family will offer them first refusal. But I think your suspicions about it being for money is about right. You only got to look around to know what’s happening in the world today. Respect and loyalty is pretty thin on the ground at the moment as we all know.

    ED: Thanks Sloop! I’m not THAT pissed off! – just annoyed at yet another dead end to a 3 year trail. When we first kicked off the websites etc, we relied upon our own Memorabilia and enthusiasm, and gradually gained exposure to a wide range of ‘foreign’ interests. In one case (not a Marsh issue) it was only the joint pressure of JT, Bill Griffiths, Keith Forbes and I, that gained some recognition for the CO of 1KSLI, KIA in Kenya 1955, where that Family showed bugger all interest in righting some errors of omission. NOW we (apparently) have a similar dis-interest from one of ‘our own’. Hopefully, The Museum has funding for this type of thing, which would have been the honourable road to travel before a Public Auction don’tcher think?

    PS: See website link here, just in from Johan.

  • Sloop JB // November 22, 2009 at 1:38 pm | Reply

    Derek

    I couldn’t agree more, as I said previously, Museum approach the family suss out what they want, perhaps they offer you first refusal. I know you’ve all worked hard, what is there to lose.

  • Jack Madron // November 22, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Reply

    Derek.
    I understand how you feel but there is nothing stranger than families. As JB said, it’s not worth your health by getting upset over what’s happening. I can’t see how a price can be put on these sort of things. The way I see it, to a family involved, they are priceless. To anybody else, scrap metal.

    I don’t think for one moment that The Keep or SAS Museum could find the amount of money that is being asked nowadays. The web link you put on stated £40.000 to £60.000 estimated. Went for £120.000. As I said, to close family, priceless but to anybody else, this sort of price is ridiculous.

    • Sylvia // November 22, 2009 at 8:26 pm | Reply

      ED

      I can never envisage any of our family every selling Dad’s medals, not for a million pounds. This is an affront to Lt. Col Marsh’s memory.

      • Editor in Brisbane // November 22, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Reply

        Thanks Sylvia, I appreciate your supportive point of view.

        I feel that many families overlook the ‘collective’ battle effort within many medal citations that are awarded to the group leader in recognition of joint activities and the honourable choice would be to hand the medals and citations back to the Regiment.

        My attitude is more directed towards the loss of the Marsh photographic memorabilia, which if it contains DCLI military records is, in my opinion, the ‘property’ of “A” Company and deserves website exposure so that we can all enjoy those moments. So far ‘our’ websites and blogsites are the only dedicated 1DCLI ‘Caribbean Posting’ to see daylight. I personally would be comforted to know that at least the photographic component of this Auction Lot, would appear to view; if not “our’s” then maybe somewhere else.

        However, I really need to record that the medal recipient of the Bravery Class type awards should, again in my opinion, prepare for the eventuality of property disposal on death and will the medal items back to The Regiment. In the matter of Australian Victoria Crosses, the Australian RSL possesses every VC won by Australian Soldiers, either by direct family gifting, or anonymous open market purchase.

        PS: I have now published extracts from the Auctioneer Catalogue on the Lt. Col. JA Marsh Blog Page, together with a .jpeg of the medals.

  • Sloop JB // November 23, 2009 at 10:52 am | Reply

    Derek

    How do you stand as regards to stuff you have on blog already. do you think it can stay there or is there a legal chance you may have to remove it.

    ED: I believe that copyright claims fail for articles in the public domain and most if not all our published material is either ‘ours’ by virtue of prior possession (prior Auction that is) and/or sanctioned by released copies of offered photos being already sanctioned by the Owner (SAS Regimental magazine via Johan Wiegman). However, to what lengths and to what purpose would a (new) private owner/collector go, in order to press a claim against a blog site in Orstralia?

  • SWANNY SWANSON // November 23, 2009 at 5:07 pm | Reply

    ED
    Nothing more than, I think, with the response of trying to get info yonks ago like you said, with the efforts of Barry and a few others, when trying to contact Simon all those months back to no avail. Most of us thought at that time we wouldn’t get any help from him, so I am not surprised that he sold our Company Commander’s Medals etc. Like a lot in society today Simon Marsh fits the bill.

  • Sloop JB // November 23, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Reply

    ED

    ENJOY

  • SWANNY SWANSON // November 25, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Reply

    ED
    I rang Keith Mannings yesterday about the news Maj. Marsh’s medals etc had been sold at auction. He was very upset about it. As you know Derek, he visited Mrs Marsh years ago now and she gave Keith a lot of his memorabilia which Keith gave to the Bermuda Museum. At that time of which he was so proud to do at that time. Did someone mention that all of it was sold at auction for £120,000? or did I get it wrong? As you well know Keith has a lot of friends in Bermuda and has holidays there on a regular basis so most of them will be disappointed about Maj Marsh’s regalia etc, also he was in charge of The Bermuda Rifles.

    ED: The Auction is scheduled for 9th December in Warwick and offers all the Marsh Family Collection. Read the foregoing blogs and the weblink to get up to date Swanny. Also browse the Lt Col Marsh blog site for our former C.O’s service history and Auction Catalogue. Let’s not trigger any false rumours ‘Ole Mate. The Rifles Museum has been advised and one can only hope that at least the Medals and Citations will fall into honourable hands and not be locked away from public view forever. The SAS will also have an interest.

    On the matter of 1DCLI related photographic memorabilia, it would appear that Keith has done his utmost by retrieving those (13) photos gifted to the Bermuda Maritime Museum obo Mrs Priscilla Marsh. Those few photos are published on a Picasa Album. Reading the Auction Catalogue leads me to believe that there are in fact many, many more Bermuda pictorial records for both 1DCLI and The Bermuda Regiment in addition to those sighted. I would like digital copies and publication approval for all relevant photographs for our web/blog sites.

    I believe that the Medals and Citations belong to the respective Regimental Museums.

    Further to this reply and earlier remarks written by me, it should by now be quite clear where I stand on this matter, but I need to be careful over publishing libellous comment.

  • Jack Madron // November 25, 2009 at 10:40 pm | Reply

    Ed.
    It doesn’t matter what we think. The Medals and Citations belong to the Marsh family and there is nothing we can do except to ask if they will be presented to the two Museums. It’s then up to them to do or not to do that.

    The only medals I have, are an uncle’s navy medals from WW1 and my fathers navy medals from WW2. Not for sale. Never.

  • Sloop JB // November 26, 2009 at 1:17 pm | Reply

    JT

    DO YOU LIKE A SMILE

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