HMTROOPSHIP MEMOIRS

(Editor 20th February 2014): Following site revision today a reader will find that this sub-page is one of the few remaining open for general HMT comment. The 60th Anniversary of the Empire Clyde sailing with 1DCLI was an event worthy of mention, and a few Old Mates obliged. Others from the 50s and beyond will find an opportunity here to record history and if so kindly follow the instructions below to find a particular ship.

NOTE WELL: Your HMT sub page comment is not shown in the “Recent Comments” widget column, you will need to browse the relevant sub page to find your posting.

Here’s how to make it work for you. Find your HMT picture and click on that image to open the Comment Page link for that ship. Open, or thread your remarks as usual. If you have a photograph/s that you wish embedded, simply scan in .jpeg format and email to Editor on djkl157@gmail.com with a caption. If your HMT is not shown, send me an email first (before making comment) on djkl157@gmail.com requesting the HMT image and page allocation, or record a request comment at page bottom below as directed, and I shall attend to it and when published you may then proceed. Gottit?

NOTE: Newcomers with HMT Empire Clyde experiences might also wish to browse the ‘Empire Clyde Association 1954’ page to view a collection of earlier comments contributed by 1DCLI personnel who sailed in her in February 1954 and raised a Commemorative Mug to that effect.

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NOTE: The HMT images shown left column are in request order (not alphabetical). A fresh image will be added in line. Here is a GALLERY 40 TROOPSHIPS link sanctioned by the Webmaster of that site, which is highly interesting reading and assists identification of a particular vessel. We acknowledge with thanks and register our appreciation for the permission to link and use the photos and information.

We further acknowledge our thanks and appreciation to the webmasters of the following websites that are linked hereto. We recommend a close browsing of all these historical pictorial records of Britains ‘Old Ships.

ED: 24th January 2016: 2 previously broken links below have been updated to new sites.

OLD SHIP PICTURE GALLERIES

DESCRIPTIONS OF EMPIRE SHIPS

SHIPS AND PASSENGER LISTS
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NOTE: The prefix HMT was thought to be an acronym for “His/Her Majesty’s Troopships” but this is evidently not the case. We are advised by a reliable authority that the titling “Hired Military Transport” is accurate. One has to concede however the popular interpretation sounds more appropriate to the task involved. We shall continue with our convenient interpretation.
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HMT Empire Clyde in 1954 livery: Ernie Smith Collection

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HMT Lancashire


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HMT Empire Test

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HMT Vienna


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HMT Dunera

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HMT Trooper

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HMT Windrush

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HMT Orbita

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HMT Devonshire


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SS Franconia

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ST Superman

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HMT Orduna

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HMT Empire Halladale

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HMT Empire Orwell

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HMT Fowey

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HMT Oxfordshire

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HMT SS Captain Cook

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HMT Empire Ken

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HMT Asturias

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HMT Dorsetshire

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HMT Empire Nevasa

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HMT Georgic

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HMT Dilwara

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Dominion MonarchCLICK THIS IMAGE TO OPEN THE SS DOMINION MONARCH COMMENT BOXES This sub page is under construction and the links are yet to be installed.
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23 Responses to HMTROOPSHIP MEMOIRS

  1. MIKE HAMBLIN

    I’m advised by son Andrew that Mike is very unwell and in hospital. Andrew has asked that Old Mates below who might remember Mike to post up a memoir or comments of The Good Old Days. I’m awaiting Mike’s service details and posting, but Sennelager and Kingston are probable. The easiest method of communication with Mike (via Andrew) is to ‘reply’ to this initial comment and develop a thread. Then Mike can read all responses in one spot. Thanks.

    John Teasdale,
    Ted Kyle
    John Barrat
    Harry Male
    Ernie Sudwell
    Keith Miles
    ‘Mouse’ Bartley
    John Catral
    Ken Butler
    Jan Pearce

  2. Memories! Memories!

    The approaching HMT Empire Clyde 63rd Liverpool departure Anniversary reminds us all yet again of the passing years. Our weblog site has been reduced now to only HMT pages remaining open for comment, but it’s encouraging to read Tim Robert’s post about a kid’s party in July 1948 on board Lancashire. Maybe some survivors can pick up the thread.

  3. THANKS FROM THE EDITOR

    I record my appreciation to those subscribers who recently have logged in Comments onto the HMT sub-pages. It’s refreshing to read the random remarks and recollections of mainly family members who were young children onboard HMTroopships during the 50s. Other readers are reminded that each individual sub-page needs to be browsed to see the details. Nothing appears in “Recent Comments”.

    Best Wishes for The Festive Season 2016 & The New Year 2017

  4. HMTroopships PAGE OPENED FOR COMMENTS

    There might be some merit in making this main HMT page available for comment, based on the (hidden) flow of interest in the various troopships. The makeup of the HMTroopships sub pages unfortunately conceals all comments from view unless the particular sub-page is opened. Some contributors might find this a little perplexing, but that’s the way that it is. Alternatively therefore a new contributor might care to place an additional comment now on the main HMT page to draw attention to another place elsewhere. Geddit?

    PS: For those of you who might be unfamiliar with logging in comments, you need to scroll down this (at view) HMTroopships main endpage to the very end to find the fresh blank “Reply” space. This applies to ALL HMTroopship sub pages, ALL of which which remain open for Comments. When completed the new post will appear at the page header.

    Be reminded however, that when replying to a ‘thread’ of an earlier published comment – your contribution then flows as part of that thread, regardless of the date of the original entry. This means that your comment is often listed far down the page and might be unobserved unless a reader browses the entire page.

  5. HMT EMPIRE WINDRUSH

    Publication of a Windrush Explosion Report is being attended to today and has been published for inclusion as a hotlinked sub-page to the HMTroopship Memoirs main page.

    See Comment from former L/Cpl Clifford Derrick, Korea 1954 on the Windrush sub-page. Follow the story as it unfolds and add Replies where applicable. At this time of publication, we have no additional detail of this Report, it’s origins or authorship, but it clearly reflects a personal experience and might interest former passengers and families who have made contributions to this weblog site over the past few years.

    PATHE NEWS OF WINDRUSH BURNING

  6. Jim Jacobs says:

    In April/May 1955, stationed in Singapore, I received orders to return to my regiment in Hong Kong. The ship I travelled on was the NEW CALEDONIA which may have been chartered for the single journey as none of my colleagues have heard of it. In 2013 I had my military memoirs published by Pen & Sword Military Books, in which I had hoped to include a photo of this ship, but without luck. Does anyone recall seeing or hearing of this ship used as a trooper?

    • G’day Jim. I’ve applied the meagre resources linked to this site to try to find an answer to your question – without success. A further link to Lloyds is negative also – so I regret that I can do no more. I presume that your Regimental Museum has been tapped for information? Good Luck.

  7. 62 years ago, this morning we awakened to the vicious swells of the North Atlantic on what would would be the 1st day of an 8 day ocean journey to Bermuda aboard the HMT Empire Clyde. We would have endured a terrible night down the Irish Sea around the bottom corner of Ireland and most would have been trying to find their sea legs. The cross sea Irish Ferry had its stern doors bashed in from the foul weather. Most of ‘A’ Company were billeted on E Deck, below the water line, 4 berths to a cabin, hand basins and decks now awash with vomit, stink and moaning squaddies. The only respite would have been a staggering trip up to the deck, inhaling the rotten diesel stink and body odours, to gain at least a snatch of fresh air in the hope that some relief was available, before another chunder over the rail.

    Interesting that yet another Clyde Anniversary passes without mention. Where have all the Old Mates gone?

    • Geoff Cherry says:

      Good morning Derek. Thank you for reminding us of those days. I think most of our old mates who are still able to, would rather not relive that trip. I was one of the lucky ones, not being sea sick, but it was a hard struggle with all the stench below decks. I spent a lot of time on deck, one minute the bows dipping into the sea the next pointing to the sky, tossing around like a cork, I felt really sorry for those who were sick, but not much you could do to help them, as I said most would rather not relive those days at sea.

  8. HMT EMPIRE CLYDE 61ST ANNIVERSARY

    The approaching 19th February 2015 records the event of yesteryear when so many of us ‘young ‘uns’ boarded an ocean going ship for the 1st time ever in our lives, bound for the Caribbean and the romance of the West Indies, an event that for some myself included, registered forever in our memories. The dying moments of HMT history and our long lives are recorded here on this site, but that too is fast disappearing like so many Old Mates, because without support from surviving DCLI’ians throughout the globe, this site will also disappear from view for good on 28th February next. The site generally is now far depleted from the original developed after 2006, when many stalwarts like ‘Swanny’ Swanson contributed banter and bull, which captured the response repartee of many. Those days are gone and the site has already lost much support. This is a final appeal for Old 1DCLI Regimentarians to register some Clyde Comments.

  9. Paul Beek says:

    Dear Readers. Like Martin de Graaf in 2013, I am looking for people who know more about the Dutch troops who went to Indonesia October 1945 on the MS. Alcantara. My father was on that ship with his battalion II-14 R.I. also called Bataljon Zeeland. They were in Nijmegen, to Wokingham, then to East Hampstead Park camp, on to London, there on October 10 Prins Bernhard paid them a visit. On October 11 by train to Liverpool and they sailed October 12. Hope anyone who reads this can help out with information on that voyage and the preparations beforehand. Thanks in advance

  10. FOR THE FALLEN

    The upcoming 60th Anniversary of the Empire Clyde’s sailing to the West Indies on 19th February 1954 is a fitting time to remember our Old Mates. I’m touched by the 100s of comments made since 2006 on the many blog pages found on this site; the memories of happy times spent during our carefree youth while playing soldiers, without a care in the world of our lives ahead, some far shorter than many of us who survive. I dedicate this powerful verse from The Ode in memory of all military men and women who gave part of their lives to Queen and Country.

    “They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them.”

  11. Martin de Graaf says:

    Hello,

    For four years now, I’m doing research for the Dutch War Volunteer Bataljon 2-4RI. (OVW-Bataljon 2-4RI ‘de Kennemers’). They had a training in Easthampstead Park from Nov. to Dec. ’45 and went with the Troopship MS Alcantara on 31-12-1945 to Singapore and later to Java Indonesia. On the ship were still 3 other Dutch Bataljons as the sister bataljon 1-4RI and 4-RS. They arrived in Singapore at 23 jan. ’46

    I’m searching for the passenger list from that journey. The RMS Alcantara was a ship from the Royal Mail Steam Packet Company. I have passenger lists from the Ship back home in 1948 that was easier to find because it were all Dutch companies at that time. But the site was from a private person, so no official site, he does that research as hobby. Perhaps that a civilian in Britain also has this hobby? Could anyone help me further in my search?

    Friendly regards,
    Martin de Graaf, archivist 2-4RI ‘de Kennemers’

    ED: We hope that a reader can assist Martin in his search, it will be helpful after all these years to shed further light on this matter. I have emailed Martin to explain that we ourselves are not a research facility, simply anecdotal but who knows?

    • Paul Beek says:

      Dear Martin. Can you please get in touch with me regarding this voyage? My father was on that ship with the II-14 R.I.(Bataljon Zeeland) email to (removed). Thanks in advance.

      ED: Email address is removed in accordance with site privacy policy. On request by Martin – if he reads this comment – I will gladly exchange the email addresses.

  12. Haydn Callow says:

    Probably doing this wrong but here goes. I have just found in a old book (probably used as a book mark) a menu for a 4 year old child’s birthday party aboard HMT Adriatic “White Star Line” dated the 17th April 1919. 14 invited guests (by name) food included. birthday cake, fruit jellies. french pastry, bon bons etc. The birthday boy was Master Donald Clark, Son of Brig-Gen Clark DSO.

    If anyone wants a copy of the menu. I can scan it and send to email addresses.

    ED: Thank you for your efforts Haydn. If there are expressions of interest, I’ll upload the graphic for copying direct from this page. So far we appear to only reach as far back as WW2.

  13. Axel MIRA says:

    That’s perfect, I’m happy to bring you some historical information and thanks a lot for helping me and correct my written English. I will learn my verbs and my syntax better. Maybe somebody will contact me about the 6th BPTNA. they must be at least 90 years old.

    ED: Well Done Axel, many thanks for posting this comment.

  14. Axel has written to me regarding the writing of his father’s Military Memoirs. His father travelled on the Eastern Prince.

    (Quote) it’s called EASTERN PRINCE. this boat was used during II war in 1945 to transport troops (TIRAILLEURS ALGERIENS – 6eme BATAILLON PORTé de Tirailleurs Nord Africains). My father was one of the military as a sergent during this period. He took this boat from Oran in Algeria to Marseille in France

    Hello Editor, thanks for your email reply. I would like to post a Comment on your blog site, but I am not familiar with the procedure, so I am passing on this information about the Eastern Prince.

    My father was an ‘adjutant chef’ in a Unit called 6ème Bataillon Porté de Tirailleurs Nord Africains. (6th BPTNA). This Unit was installed in Algérie at Tlemcen and was created on 15 Aout 1944 after dissolution of the 1st Regiment Tirailleurs Algériens. The bests elements of this 1st RTA – which came back from WW2 in 1942 on the boundary Algerie /Tunisie were integrated and created the 6 BPTNA. The other elements of the 1st RTA created the 1st regiment de Marche de Tirailleurs. 1er RTA was dissolved, creating of 6 BPTNA and 1st RMT.

    At least 2 trips were made crossing Mediterranean, but I don’t know if they used the same ship. The first trip, I don’t know when exactly the BPTNA embarked, but it arrived at Marseille on 09 March 1945. My father embarked at Oran (Algérie) on the Eastern Prince with the 6 BpTNA on 23 February 1945. He arrived at Marseille (France) on 1st March 1945.

    This information is extracted from the “Military Memoirs”. The 6 BPTNA was used to liberate all Atlantic French coast, occupied by the Germany Army. This unit was placed under the orders of General DE LARINAT, and the West French Forces Army, by direction of General DE GAULLE. They (with Armoured Divisions) liberated this town of ROYAN and the others places on the Atlantic coast (OLERON Isle). This is only a small part of the activity of this Unit and I have all the documents from the archive of Ministry of Defense about this activity. There is further information about 6 BPTNA at http://www.le-ptit-train.com/gatseau_plage.htm (URL linked in bold titling above)

    My father was Alfred MIRA, Tunisie Medal, Algerie Medal, Citations, Legion d’Honour, Commandant. My genealogy website: mira.fr.fm if you want to know me more and any of items of interest please send on to delcampe.fr with my pseudonym : schtroumpfe – German soldiers in lead II War (sic). I don’t make the apology for this Army. Thank you, wishing that you can understand me. (Unquote)

    ED: Axel’s written English has been partly corrected

  15. Graham Connor says:

    Looking for history of HMT Empire Longford. 1st Batt. Royal Australian Regiment sailed from Kure japan to Pusan Korea 1952.

  16. Magge Gates says:

    Please if anyone has info of any troopships leaving from perhaps US port through Canadian ports arriving Liverpool end of Feb 1941 or 1st week of March, 1941, will you provide any assistance. I have letter info from my dad as passenger onboard (unnamed) that ship was in convoy or at least with escort of some sort. I am at a loss in my search. Thanks.

  17. RESERVED SPACE

    Kindly limit Comments on this page to ‘Requested HMTs’ (by name) only, and/or pertinent queries regarding general site usage. As indicated above, log in a specific HMT comment against the ship’s image shown above.

    • Tim Roberts says:

      I have a scan of each side of the menu for a children’s party on HMT Lancashire in July 1948. It shows the food served and the names of the children. Are they of interest?lancashiremenu2 lancashiremenu1

      CLICK TO ENLARGE

      • REMINDER

        Tim and I are exchanging some email comments relating to “Reply” placement when following threaded conversations on this blogsite. All replies to threads are attached to the original comment, consequently, as in this example, all replies finish up at the bottom of the page. It makes sense of course, in the continuation and development of a given topic. However, a new comment will appear at the very top of the selected page.

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