“S” COY. MMG1

MMG Heaven?

MMG Heaven?


(Editor 25th March 2009) In what is a departure from earlier tradition to publish 1DCLI photo memorabilia on dedicated websites, I am opening this blog page to acknowledge the enthusiasm of certain stalwart members of the MMG Platoon. With tongue in cheek, I recognise the need to offer a large platform for the rude and ribald comments that will no doubt flow from “A” Company Bloggers, in addition to the bullshit that feeds the Vickers contingent.

JACK MADRON’S PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORABILIA SECTION:

Minden 1952. Back row left to right: Kellow, ?, ?, ?, Whiskey Morgan, Jack Madron, ?, Mid Row: ?, ?, ?, John Evans, ?, Blackmoor, Maunder. Front row: ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, Cpl Carling, ?, ?.

Minden 1952. Back row left to right: Kellow, ?, ?, ?, Whiskey Morgan, Jack Madron, ?, Mid Row: ?, ?, ?, John Evans, ?, Blackmoor, Maunder. Front row: ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, Cpl Carling, ?, ?.

John (Jack) Madron, Cpl Machine Gun Platoon, Support Company 1DCLI, Bodmin, Minden, Plymouth, Jamaica. John advises – I was 1 Section Cmdr, Sgt John (Dutchy) Holland’s driver in Germany. Platoon Cmdr was Lt Tim Hodder. 2 Section Cmdr was Sgt Dick Oram. In Jamaica our Platoon Cmdr was Lt Peter Rowe.

Val Buscombe, Trevor Richards

Val Buscombe, Trevor Richards

Wally Welch, John Madron, Don MacLean, Roy Morris,

Wally Welch, John Madron, Don MacLean, Roy Morris,

David Johnson, Whiskey Morgan, (?) Ivor Penhaligan

David Johnson, Whiskey Morgan, (?) Ivor Penhaligan

Len Nicholls (Lt Hodder's driver), David Johnson, (D.R.)

Len Nicholls (Lt Hodder's driver), David Johnson, (D.R.)

Val Buscombe, Roy Morris, John Madron

Val Buscombe, Roy Morris, John Madron

From top - Sgt Dutchy Holland, Lt Peter Row, Sgt Dick Oram, Cpls Cook, Southwarth.  Ptes Madron, Basher, (?), MacLean, Kelloway, Barrett, (?), Thompson, Baker, (?), (?), (?), Cpl Fisher, Ptes Johnson, Andrews, Penhaligan, (?),

From top - Sgt Dutchy Holland, Lt Peter Row, Sgt Dick Oram, Cpls Cook, Southwarth. Ptes Madron, Basher, (?), MacLean, Kelloway, Barrett, (?), Thompson, Baker, (?), (?), (?), Cpl Fisher, Ptes Johnson, Andrews, Penhaligan, (?),

Dunn's River Falls

Dunn's River Falls

Cpl Madron (a few minutes taken off from Coy Orderly Sgnt)

Cpl Madron (a few minutes taken off from Coy Orderly Sgnt)

Cpl Tony Downing, Cpl John Madron

Cpl Tony Downing, Cpl John Madron

Empire Clyde, location unknown (postcard from onboard Feb 1954)

Empire Clyde, location unknown (postcard from onboard Feb 1954)

Two guns in action at Port Royal. Jamaica. Jack Madron on nearest gun and Cpl John Fisher is number one on the other gun. We were live firing out to sea.

Two guns in action at Port Royal. Jamaica. Jack Madron on nearest gun and Cpl John Fisher is number one on the other gun. We were live firing out to sea.

Left: Sgnt Ron Delap RIP, Cpl Tony Downing, Assault Pioneer Platoon, Cpl David Johnson, Cpl John Madron MMG Platoon

Left: Sgnt Ron Delap RIP, Cpl Tony Downing, Assault Pioneer Platoon, Cpl David Johnson, Cpl John Madron MMG Platoon

Flag Staff Port Royal.

Flag Staff Port Royal.

Reunion at Bodmin, Dutchy Holland, Bill Kellaway, John Madron, Alan Collins, also MMG Platoon

Reunion at Bodmin, Dutchy Holland, Bill Kellaway, John Madron, Alan Collins, also MMG Platoon

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DAVE HUTCHINSON’S PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORABILIA SECTION:

MMG Platoon: Ivor Penhaligon seated in front

MMG Platoon: Ivor Penhaligon seated in front

Up Park Camp, Kingston Jamaica 1954

Up Park Camp, Kingston Jamaica 1954

Dave H. Smart soldier

Dave H. Smart soldier

Dave H relaxing at the Camp Pool

Dave H relaxing at the Camp Pool

Dave H, don't cross this guy

Dave H, don't cross this guy

MMG Platoon. Dave H driver side step

MMG Platoon. Dave H driver side step

Camp Swimming Pool

Camp Swimming Pool


Driver Dave H

Driver Dave H

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1,230 Responses to “S” COY. MMG1

  1. Editor in Brisbane says:

    THANKS FOR THAT JT

    A fitting last post for this Blog Page.

    NOW CLOSED

    Click this hotlink for MMGs2 (NEW) JAMAICA BLOG

  2. JT says:

    So they march off to a new posting.

  3. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Thanks for that I have often wondered.

  4. JT says:

    Wots a quirky

    ED: #6%$#$$@*!!

    • Sylvia says:

      JT

      I think it’s a turkey, with a lisp.

      ED: Gawd, that was quick. Benny Hill humour ain’t dead then!

  5. Editor says:

    THIS BLOG SHUTTING DOWN TO ACTIVE COMMENT

    Recent productive debate on Old Grumpy has concluded in that MMG2 will be published to replace this ‘un. We’ll keep open for closure of current topics for about 48 hours, but after then, only passive viewing will be available.

    I’ll probably place a hotlink from the old to the new. (What an opportunity for some to make a quirky remark!)

    Tempus Fugit!

    PS: New MMG page now open for fresh Comments (not fresh comments), but fresh comments. Geddit?

    PPS: Belay the 48 hours reference. MMGs (OLD) NOW CLOSED

  6. David says:

    JT i wonder if the soldiers were all Gay in those days , I mean just the ones that went to newcastle , as there was no mention of Sexual activity in what you wrote , maybe thats where the circle jerk started ,

  7. JT says:

    Newcastle Camp Jamaica 1886

    This is extracted from a book written by a visitor reporting on the West Indies in behalf of the British Government. The writer has been invited to visit Newcastle Camp

    Before visiting the camp the author enquired of an Aide de Camp at Government House “what the privates did at the camp in Newcastle ? The ground was too steep for athletics, no cricket could be possible there, no lawn tennis, no quoits , no croquet ( What a dickhead , like the poor sods of privates would play these hossifer type games in 1886)

    With nothing to do what could become of them ? Did they drink ? Well yes. They drank rum but there were no public houses. They could only get it at the canteen. As to beer, it was out of reach all together.

    I enquired if they did not occasionally hang themselves. ‘perhaps they would’ he said ‘if they had no choice, but they prefer to desert and this they do in large numbers They slip down the back of the range, make their way to the sea and escape to the United States’.

    There you are DCLI bods. Newcastle hadn’t changed a bit when you were there in 1954 – 1957

  8. Tom Howell says:

    Jack
    Yes I did that march as well. Major Mason then Coy Cmd of ‘B’ coy did not come with us as he had foot rot – as did half the company!!. I made allowance for the wiggly bits in estimating the mileage
    Dave H
    You have to realise I was not with S (low ) Company.We had no time to admire the view but I think they must have put something in the tea that Jack mentions!

    • Jack Madron says:

      Tom.
      Can you tell me when Major Mason joined B Coy ? I thought he was with S Coy when I left, June 55. I could be mistaken about this as it has been a few years now.
      I know that Sgt John Holland went to a rifle coy and was replaced by Sgt Naylor in MGs.
      Cpl Les Southworth also went to a rifle coy after I left. I don’t know about S(low) Coy. We did every thing a rifle coy could do as well as our specialised work. Who won the Rifle Meeting at Harbour Head Range. 9th May 1955 ? Not a rifle coy. Ha ha.

      • Tom Howell says:

        Jack
        Like you, my memory on some points is a little blurred but I am clear on Mason, his foot rot and the Newcastle march. I left my Officer’s Mess job weeks after arriving in Jamaica and went to B Coy until Sept ’54 when I went to Belize until Feb ’55. I came back to B Coy until May when I went to UK to the Army MT School Bordon. On return I was promoted Sjt and went back to Belize (about July ’55) for the rest of the tour. To the best of recollection Mason was there on both occasions although the name Gason is rumbling in my mind too. Sorry about the S(low) dig. It was a feeble attempt on my part to respond to Dave H’s witty blog about the four hour march. The military prowess of S Coy Stalwarts is not in doubt and I will defend your reputation from the world at large.

        I went to Les Southworth’s wedding in the Garrison Church at Up Park Camp, and I think he is on a photo taken in Newcastle one Xmas.

        ED: Tom’s (new) Picasa Album of 8 Newcastle photos taken 90-91 & DCLI Caribbean period are now published to Tom’s name above and also on Old Mates Picasa Albums (Military).

        • JT says:

          Tom

          Isn’t it amazing that they send you to UK in the middle of a tour for a course. ? I have commented several times about moving people to and from Jamaica, Bermuda and presumably from what you say other West India stations and UK.

          • Tom Howell says:

            JT
            I went to the UK with Cpl Robby Robinson(ex DLI and Para)to learn all about MT Administration and Technical Stores Management.Robby took over in Kingston from I think Sjt Sid Addison, and I took over from Sjt Solly Solomon in Belize because he was banged up in a jeep accident with Lt Middleton. As a single man at the time I volunteered to go to Belize. There were no married quarters there.I dont think I could have done the job without benefit of the courses, and it gave me promotion at the age of 23.

          • Jack Madron says:

            JT.
            Lt Buggy Rowe offered me a third stripe and sent back to England on an MMG Instructors course if I signed on again. I was sorely tempted but turned it down because Sgt Naylor would still be senior rank and we did not get on at all.
            That’s life.

            • David says:

              Thats funny Jack , he offered me the same , I wonder if he just wanted to get rid of us , but i i cant think of the reason why ,

          • David says:

            JT They didnt want you to get over friendly with the Local Gals so to be sure they were shipped out ,

    • JT says:

      Tom

      What with foot rot and crutch rot (Dhobi itch) its a wonder you lot left camp at all.

      All the above plus previously reported crabs (mechanised dandruff). Wot a rotten lot.

      • Tom Howell says:

        JT
        And people thought we had a cushy number out there. A favoured remedy for crabs was to shave and apply copious quantities of Brasso – so I am told!

        • JT says:

          Tom

          Yes probably be effective. But you could always use Cherry Blossom boot polish. Didn’t kill em but sure slowed em down .

  9. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,
    You are quite right saying it was radio redifusion, it was piped in all over camp. Being in the Mess we had a bit of time to listen after breakfast, not like you guys out and about on parades and duties. I remember one programme called DR. PAUL, all about his surgery and his patients obviously.,but I remember the JINGLE that use to accompany it, when it came on Tele as an advert I had to smile to myself.

    No never water on floors of wood
    Much better to wax than too wash them
    Use Johnsons beauty floor maybe you should
    But water on wood no good. How sad is that.

    Reading all your blogs I missed all the fun of marching to Newcastle,I’m really gutted, but then being in the Mess I missed quite a few things,never mind.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      You didn’t miss any fun, mate. That was bloody torture. If I remember rightly, that exercise was dreamed up by some top brass burk to see how quick Kingston could be evacuated in case of a A Bomb attack. What a laugh. I don’t think.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        Well considering that the West had an estimated only 4 minutes warning before a nuclear strike I guess the flash and blast would catch you up before you had marched clear of the camp. A couple of seconds later Newcastle camp would be toast.

        All the above assumes that the siren was working or the telephone operator in the orderly room wasn’t asleep or playing with himself in the ablutions. and you had time to get on parade and the NS subalterns time to pack their Teddy Bears and Winnie the Pooh books.

        Gawd what pricks we had as leaders. Just as bad now I guess.

        er I feel a topic change coming on unless we are careful.

  10. Dave H says:

    Jack i cant remember my Bs Fom my Sss Piped in Music not that i remember , Naylor probably had it disconnected

  11. Tom Howell says:

    JT
    Quoting from memory, it was about 15 miles to Newcastle, and another 20 miles to Buff bay on North Coast where B Coy marched to.it would take about 4 hrs to Newcastle given the terrain.We stayed overnight in Newcastle before sliding down to Buff Bay.
    Jamaica is about 140 miles long West to East and about 40 miles from north to South at widest point.
    got some good photos of Newcastle.

    • Dave H says:

      You marched up there in four hours , with a bloody Tripod on yer back , wow were you smokin Pot ? Did you stop for lunch at Mc Donalds

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi Tom.
      I reckon you are near enough with the milage.
      I seem to remember it was nine miles as the crow flies but we were not crows.
      Do you remember the enforced march the battalion did from Up Park Camp to Newcastle ?
      There and back in the same day. Got a mug of tea and sandwiches at Newcastle then started back down. Completely knackered. Glad we didn’t have the vickers guns with us.
      Dave.
      The MMGs were S Coy not B Coy. Also, our block was wash house, toilets one end followed by two long rooms and a small room for one or two beds at the other end. The windows were hooked open to the outside wall. I can’t remember them being shut even at night.
      Wasn’t the local radio piped into the rooms ? Like the old Redifusion used to be.

  12. JT says:

    How much time to march up to Newcastle from Up Park Camp ?

    Looking at Jamaica on Google Earth I was surprised at the size and how mountainous it is.

  13. JT says:

    NEWCASTLE CAMP JAMAICA

    Jack and Dave

    Hey guys can we get our act together. I am doing some serious research here. Get a grip.

    Note that I am doing the CAPITAL bit as requested by Massa tho must admit I dont see what it means.

    ED: JT, I’m dragging you all through the age of blogging enlightenment. Method in my madness (WOW! ain’t that an opportunity for some!). Refer to Old Grumpy’s page during next 24 hours to get the drift.

    • Dave H says:

      Massa begin to talk like you JT .. Rambeling , Tip toeing thew the tulips ,,,Better add with an Machine gun on his back ,

  14. Dave H says:

    Jack you are talking about Newcastle im talking about UP PARK ,, NO bloody windows in our hut cabin or whatever they called it , I was only up to New castle once on a march , JT , the ones that were sent up there were the ones who repoted sick with the clap , no Pros up in Newcastle , thats how come the Circle Jerk on Sat nights

    • JT says:

      Jack

      Dave infers that you might have gone to Newcastle to see the MO there for an “personal” reason. If so you can tell us how you gottit.

      I point out before challenge that we are still on the legit blog here.

  15. JT says:

    Dave

    Yes I thought it might be you lot. What were you smokin ?

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      Went to Newcastle a few times. Never saw any fog but had to shut doors and windows at night to keep the clouds out.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        I think fog = clouds in this context. Newcastle seems like a pretty grim place to be stationed.
        Long way from bars and entertainment ? Except the NAAFI ?

      • Dave H says:

        What windows Jack , ? all we had was Mozzie Nets , not a friggin window in the place , That was good we didnt have to clean them

        • JT says:

          Dave

          Why would you guys be sent to Newcastle and what did you do up there (officially that is) ?

          In the old days the purpose was to avoid the fevers down in the Kingston forts which decimated the garrison. Apparently there was one battalion in which only 2 men survived.

          • Jack Madron says:

            JT.
            I was there on an NCOs cadre and once we had to march up those bloody mountains from Up Park Camp as a battalion and back in a day.

            Dave. The huts had windows and doors, when I was there. Each hut had a porch with heavy door on outside and a light door on the inside.
            Nothing to do in the evenings but read or bull kit. Wouldn’t have liked to be stationed there.

  16. Dave H says:

    We passed into a cloud though which we saw dimly groups of figures listlessly lounging. The slope was so steep that there was nor standing on it, save where it had been ///JT that was the MMGs taking a smoke break ,

  17. JT says:

    More on Newcastle camp Jamaica

  18. JT says:

    Above first attempt to copy and paste from word processor document.

  19. JT says:

    Newcastle Camp Jamaica 1886

    This is extracted from a book written by a visitor reporting on the West Indies in behalf of the British Government. The writer has been invited to visit Newcastle Camp

    “Having ceased to quarter our regiments in mangrove swamps (where they died like flies) we now build a camp for them among the clouds.

    As far as Gordons Town we travelled along the same road as we had before. At a wayside inn we found horses waiting.

    The track was so rough that we could only ride in single file. Yet by this and no other way every article had to be carried on donkeys backs or human heads which was required for the consumption of 300 infantry and 100 artillerymen.

    An hours ride brought us to the lowest range of houses which were 4000 feet above the sea. From thence they rose tier by tier for 500 feet or more

    We passed into a cloud though which we saw dimly groups of figures listlessly lounging. The slope was so steep that there was nor standing on it, save where it had been flattened by a spade; and here in this extraordinary place were 400 young Englishmen of the common type of which soldiers are made, with nothing to do and to enjoy – remaining, unless they desert or die of ennui, for, two, or three years as their chance will be. (No NAAFI then ?)

    Every other day they can see nothing in the fog.

  20. Dave H says:

    And tune in tomorrow for the next episode

  21. JT says:

    More on above.

    I had a recollection that married quarters of 1 DCLI were in Newcastle. Right or wrong ?

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      Some may have been but most were just the other side of the low wall and railings as seen in Trevor Webb’s photos. The building, seen just outside railings was the Sgts Mess and MQs were just beyond that. Used to take fatigue parties around to spray kitchens for cockroaches when duty Coy. The Sgts Mess was where Sylvia used to go to get her dad’s Woodbines. The MG block was opposite the Mess, inside the railings.

      • Jack Madron says:

        PS.
        A photo of band and bugles marching through the MQs is also on, I believe, Joe Tippett blog.

        • Jack Madron says:

          JT.
          Wrong. Not on Joe Tippett blog. must be one of the other photo blogs.
          Put the second T in this time.

    • Sylvia says:

      JT

      There were some married quarters in Newcastle, I believe Carole Fiddock said that was were she lived, but I’m sure Margaret will update me on that one

      • Margaret Royffe says:

        Our house was up a bit and opposite the Sgts. Mess, to the right of the family swimming pool and over the road from the Jones There were other family married quarters in the block near us, on two or three roads; I used to ride my bicycle within those bounderies. I know Carole Fidock lived up in Newcastle with a Company and their families. Does this help?

  22. JT says:

    Dave’s recent comment in which he mentions Newcastle Brown brings me firmly back on track with this blog.

    A polly in 1878 went to the West Indies on a fact finding mission (expenses again ?)

    He made am observation that the troops in incumbent British Army garrison were all billeted in Newcastle to avoid the pestilential climate in Kingston. Only the Jamaica regt (blecks) were stationed in Up Park Camp.

  23. JT says:

    Dave

    But you are a machine gunner, fearless and frequently in the shit with people like Lt H….r. Did you know he tried to shag my girlfriend in Bermuda? (Yawn Jack will say). Oops change to A “Coy” blog.

    Sorry Ed couldn’t resist it. You have to have a larf tho dontcha.

  24. Dave H says:

    It is going to come to the point that one will be afraid to blog in case its in the wrong blog. No wonder there are no new bloggers, they are afraid they are going to get shit.

    ED: That’s b/s DH. In the recent months/weeks, we’ve observed several new ‘uns making comments, with a few old ‘uns disappearing (maybe temporarily) due to family/health issues. One must ask why others fail to join in, when in fact there are ample choices. The real issue is attitude towards “PC’s”, “gettingaroundtuit”, “capability with a keyboard”, “sheer willingness to devote time and discipline” and most of all memory “recall”.

    Consider also, these Light Infantry sites were designed by me to function purely and solely as military reminiscences and initially always offered an opportunity for anecdotal recall within our own ‘Caribbean’ times. I later (Feb 2009) published OLD MATES PHOTO PANORAMA/MEMORABILIA (you were the last comment on there in August last). The offer of these ‘civilian’ sites created an avenue for non military style comments and after some initial piss taking of me for producing ’em, took off quite well. Now they’re not even browsed – like many of the existing sites.

    There is, and always was, a simple solution to the usage of ALL these sites. That is to learn the tools at one’s disposal by browsing the header sections of each blog page to evaluate the intent. Contrary to grafted opinion as to what “Ed likes, permits, should and shouldn’t do”, I have been widely liberal in cases where a blog has been shanghaid with unrelated matter, when in fact a perfectly suitable avenue exists.

    It’s a case of monkey on my back syndrome, an offender will argue the case determinedly in order to justify their wrong decision in the first place. The real cause of ALL the problems, is that bloggers simply do not bother to align themselves with blog discipline.

  25. JT says:

    I dunno about suggesting solutions as Ed says.

    If you look at a thread on this blog starting 15 Sept with a remark from Jack about MMG you will see how the comments come in thick and fast and are totally unrelated to the brief we have for the blog. But that is the attraction isn’t it? Everyone getting involved ?

    But as Derek has pointed out this will lead to overload presumably?

  26. Dave Hutchinson says:

    Could be the Trans Canada trail, ha ha.

  27. JT says:

    Global warming hits BC Canada

  28. JT says:

    Dave

    Yes, Yes, we know. Ice fishing, seal blubber for tea, porcupine steak for dinner, local Mountie doin that looney Indian love call stuff, getting his man (not you I hope).

  29. Dave H says:

    Blimey, the blog has gone to the dogs, or should I say Polar bears. JT must have had some of that northern beer as he is rambling again. Cold, hey you guys have not had cold, come here and be cold there are no Brass Monkeys around in January.

  30. Jack Madron says:

    JT.
    At last you’ve seen sense and joined the clan. Bravo.

    Talking about cold. You should have been in Germany. Dug into a snow drift with a blanket and poncho cape. Now that’s cold.

    • JT says:

      Jack

      Germany? Cushy posting. Bloody sub tropical. At Catterick we had snowdrifts in’ t barrack rooms (no windows or doors). Blankets froze solid so Cpls had to beat the beds with pick axe handles to let us out. We ad to wear snow shoes to get on muster parade.

  31. JT says:

    But now we have other Jamaica bods and (is a female bod a boss ?) sounds right, bods and bosses with Sloop and Tom, Sylvia and Margaret as well as Jack and Dave this blog is very lively.

  32. JT says:

    I think we have immunity from blog trotting on this blog because of Jack and Dave.

    It was only created to keep them away from everyone else with their clearly sexual obsession with MMGs but has enlarged to be a depository (Jack) for their other deviant thought processes.

    ‘Course that was when the Blog Commander despaired of ever finding any trace of Jamaica or Belize bods.

    Not being a Jamaica or MMg person but as a (self taught) psychotherapist (Thank you Beano) I naturally joined the blog to try and channel their thoughts in a healthier way.

    Sadly because of this exposure I am as barmy as they are. Can I get compensation ?

  33. JT says:

    Sloop

    Polar bears inside t’NAAFI? BLISS! At Catterick we ad NAAFI girls so savage that the RP’s had to force the lads in for their NAAFI break using pick axe handles.

  34. Sloop JB says:

    Hi JT,
    Are you sure it was a Polar Bear, could it have been Swanny before he went down cellar. We couldn’t get in our NAAFI Polar Bears were already in there it was so cold and no matter how we tried they just wouldn’t budge. Talk about icicles we were afraid to pee.

  35. JT says:

    Sloop

    Frozen water 5 weeks? Bloody luxury. At Catterick it were so cold we ad no water at all, just icicles to suck AND we ad polar bears waitin outside t’ NAAFI

  36. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,
    Good to hear you’re alright again, chicken breast and fish pie, sounds good to me.

    On another blog you were asking if we really had five weeks leave at Plymouth, I can assure you we did. I can remember it was so cold it froze so hard we had no water, I wonder if that’s why they sent us home for so long.

  37. Dave H says:

    Jack, I was thinking of going to live in OZ but the weather down there seems to make people Grumpy and we are going to be in sheet because we are not talking MMGs. So I’m off out for a coffee and a muffin its almost lunch time anyways.

  38. Dave H says:

    Jack you still not well? You must have been on the wrong breast, Oops, I mean chicken breasts, will email you later. I just got yours.

  39. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,
    Haven’t heard from you lately, hope you’ve got over tummy trouble by now. I bet you’ve been sitting by the harbour in that glorious weather down there.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi JB.
      Haven’t been down to the harbour for a long time. I suppose we take it for granted. Like the bay and Carek Los An Cos, they’re there every day. I think we are spoiled really.

      Still got that bug but not so bad now. Wish I could get my appetite back though, been surviving on chicken breasts and fish pies. Bit windy and overcast today but the main thing is, it’s dry.

  40. Sloop JB says:

    Sylvia,
    I hope you continue in that vein, not much fun being good all the time.

  41. Sloop JB says:

    Thank heavens for little girls I say.

  42. JT says:

    Sylvia

    How old were you when you went to Jamaica?

  43. JT says:

    Dave

    Well said lad.

  44. Dave H says:

    #%%&@&&!*^^% Me

    • Sylvia says:

      Hi Dave,

      How many traps did you catch? I take it that’s what trapping is all about, isn’t it?

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        Dave may still be out trapping. It depends on how much the trap population has been reduced due to unregulated trapping. I know Dave is a member of the Trap Protection League and will not catch more than he his annual licence permits.

        Many traps are now domesticated but even then they can have a nasty bite.

  45. JT says:

    Er

    My brain hurts.

  46. SWANNY SWANSON says:

    Jack, JT. You mentioned Dave in Canada he still emails me with captions etc which I really appreciate some lovely pictures etc.

    I know I don’t go on this blog as much as the boys who served in Jamaica, but as Jack says about the Bermuda blog, he didn’t go there. I say to him when he visits me that I didn’t go there so can’t comment much about MMGs etc as the people connected with the Jamaican Coys.

  47. JT says:

    Hi Jack

    Well I think the Grumpy blog is for us to winge about Ed. I see you have been on the RSM Royffe blog a bit.

    Dave still on leave. Hope he comes back soon so we can organize our Christmas food parcels from Canada, particularly with these Post Office strikes.

    It’s bad enough at the best of times with those f…..g Somalis and Nigerians in the sorting offices nicking stuff. You don’t get that in Cornwall though do you?

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi JT.
      Only on RSM blog, answering senior rank. As for stuff being nicked from sorting offices, probably a bit less than other places as we haven’t as many. If the PO folds, there’s the answer for all those out of work fox hunters. Pony Express. Psimples.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        Perfect. Pony Express what a good idea. The pricks in the red coats can also get jobs at Butlins or better still shoot em.

  48. JT says:

    Jack

    I think it’s time to go up market and read the Beano. Their Wall Street and Footsie Analysis is excellent and just as meaningless to me as every one else.

    Playing “Footsie “was a daring sex act when visiting the new girlfriends folks for tea the first time in our young days. No not footsie with her mum. In’t North mum would have a hatchet hidden in her Pinnie.

    Why don’t you go to Bodmin Museum more often and play with the bloody thing. Take it apart, clean the bits, put em together again, their regular cleaner will probably make you a cuppa.

    Dave is awol but might have gone huntin . I don’t remember when the deer permit season starts in BC. Do you reckon he is setting up his Vickers in ambush?

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      Lots of parts are missing. Unlike a bloody rifle with only a bolt and mag. I’ll take your advice with the Beano, mate. Could do with a change.

      Hey, not bad remembering that many parts, after all these years. Was I? Surprised myself.

      Footie. We won again tonight, in Turkey. Not the bird.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        I can remember the name of my parts but haven’t seen em for a long time. (bay window trouble)

        • Jack Madron says:

          Hi JT.
          Was about to organise a search party. Didn’t know if you had gone trapping with Dave or what. Can’t go on the new blog as I’m not a dwarf. You know, Grumpy, Sleepy etc.

          I thought you were using a mirror on a stick to bypass bay window?Think I’ll have a looksee at some of the other blogs then have an early night.

  49. Jack Madron says:

    Nobody around so I’ll pass the time by stripping the gun. Blast deflecter. OCMA. Feed block. Lock. Fugee spring. Barrel. Sod this. Think I’ll read the Dandy instead.

  50. JT says:

    Thanks Ed

    Thought I would look in as I am on a pee break.

    Night Night

  51. JT says:

    Wots a Sin Tax ?

    Bloody Hell is there no end to these stealth taxes.

    ED: ‘Tis a leading question I know JT. (A) A grammatical arrangement of words or grammatical rules in a language.

  52. Sylvia says:

    Hi guys

    Where is everybody?

    ED: Hello Sylvia, I monitor all, but don’t necessarily join in, as I prefer to encourage individual expression. However, there has been a noticable shift to other blogs – Unbelievable and Afghanistan and others, that follows a mild bollocking which I delivered over blog discipline and appropriate topics in their rightful (blog) places. Perhaps go back over several previous days of MMG comments to comprehend.

    As is obvious, we have a wide and varied choice of blog pages and MMGs seemed to waver considerably off the track, when in fact topics that were built on, appeared in retrospect to be better developed in (say) Unbelievable.

    Some have taken the hump over my editorial licence, especially as I’ve made the point that (my) expectation is that bloggers at least familiarise themselves with ALL the blog pages AND the original intent expressed in those page leader editorials.

    • Sylvia says:

      I’m lonely in here by myself, and I have washed!

      • Jack Madron says:

        Still here Sylvia.
        Did you have a nice holiday? We’ve had some nice weather, the last few days but of course, the kids are gone back to school. As for blogs, I only go on Unbelievable and your dad’s blogs to have a looksee, then to MMG blog. Never having anything to do with some of the other blogs, I’ve nothing to say about things I’ve never been involved with.

        Just arrived home from town after getting my pension. No more comment about Post Offices.

        • Sylvia says:

          Hiya Jack

          I did have a good holiday thank you, and the weather was kind to us. All of us are quailfied in one or two of the following, aromatherapy, reflexology, manicure, pedicure, facial treatments and (best of all) Indian head massage. So we spent 5 days pampering each other and being pampered.

          We have always used the Sun holiday offer for this holiday, all though we now go all over the south, using the £9.50 offer. We are now all retired and widowed. A couple of years ago we went to Mullion Cove, what a lovely place and all those little coves along the coast going towards Lands End, the funny thing was that every time we returned to the caravan we passed Morrisions at Penzance!

          Looks like the weather has changed now, I hope JB has it a bit warmer where he is going. Have you been away this year.

          Ditto on ‘No Comment’ for the Post Office

          • JT says:

            Jack

            Who are these “funny little coves” Sylvia is meeting in Cornwall.

          • JT says:

            Sylvia

            Dave could do with an Indian head massage if there one going cheap. He reckons the local squaws in Dog Patch don’t do that kind.

            • Sylvia says:

              JT

              I think in Dog Patch the squaws don’t do a head massage because by the time they scalped people there isn’t much to massage. I’ve only seen a recent picture of Dave in a hat, do you think he still has his scalp.

          • Jack Madron says:

            Sylvia.
            No. I haven’t been away for a number of years. Spent so much time travelling when working, I’ve probably grown lazy. The wife has been abroad a couple of times. She likes Italy.

            Just had a lovely hot bath to try and soothe the aches away. Partially succeeded. Haven’t got any friends who do pedicures and the like. Ha ha. Yes, we have some beautiful coves down here but unfortunately you can’t live off scenery. Another remark from JT coming in. Time to turn in, I think. Nos Da.

    • Sylvia says:

      ED

      Sorry but can I understand your comment to mean that some of my comments belong on the Unbelivable blog. I understand your frustration if this is the case, but I was never in the Army so my comments are limited to my life in Jamaica. I just feel that I have found some very good friends on this blog, and would like to confine my comments to this blog. I do look at the other blogs, and am not unsympathic to the Afgan atrocities but my comments on Jamaica would be totally out of place there. If you feel that my comments are out of place on this blog perhaps I should just restrict my self to just visiting the sites and make no comments at all. We should after all be allowed to ask each other how we are, and what their life is like now, thats what friends do.

      I have found your comments a little harsh at times, especially as you have joined in our fun.

      Please let me know what is required of me, and which blog you think I should use, or indeed let me know if I should be contributing at all.

      ED: Firstly, you are most welcome, whatever, whenever you choose to subscribe. You have become our “Leading Lady” and it does our hearts good to have your opinions, particularly as you have a provenance that we all treasure and revere. “Keep dem blogs acoming Sylvia”

      Secondly, in due course, this MMG page will be too heavy to load, regardless of the bandwidth of your computer and another will have to take its place. This has already been experienced, with “Wise & Wicked”, “Rhyme or Reason” (both now archived and closed to view, although I can restore ’em for reading only).

      Thirdly, and I use a f’rinstance here, lets say that you mentioned an “RSM” experience, which others – down the line in reply – pick up and continue, either as a “Reply” (which connects to the original comment), or as a new comment. We then have an expansion of an “RSM” recollection that others (out there in cyberspace) would never read, ‘cos it ain’t on the RSM blog.

      Fourthly, ‘cos you individually have a “Jamaica” history, you appropriately record your comment on this ‘ere blog. ‘Tis the respondent who can pick up the momentum and reply to yours (on MMG) – back over the page/s on “RSM”. This way we keep most “RSM” comments on the RSM page.

      Finally, banter and bull about everyday life is a factor of interest and I have no objections at all (even IF that was my option – which it ain’t) – but where there is provision for (say) an Afghanistan, RSM, Unbelievable, type comment, then I hope that some of the time (not all) discipline will prevail.

      PS: My nature is anal, in that as ALL traffic passes via my computer. I hate spelling, grammar, syntax errors, which means that I voluntarily correct most that I find. But when an insulting or unappreciative remark towards another is made – beyond what we blokes term ‘taking the p**s’ – especially when I for one spend my time correcting multiple errors that seem never to improve, I shall draw the line. If said miscreant doesn’t like the 252 (jankers not banishment) then said thin skinned individual needs to (reasonably) conform.

      The very least that I expect is that sufficient interest be shown by everybody to familiarise themselves with ALL the blog pages, initially to view our growing history, and also to determine where a comment is best placed.

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        I agree there seems to be some alarm at present and it seems to be restrictive to try to marshall topical comments to any particular blog and the example you give is a good one. I don’t think Derek intends this. But he can speak for himself.

        The MMG Blog was created by Derek to attract people who had served in “S” Company and MMG Platoon in particular as Jack and Dave were the only contributors.

        But it becomes apparent that the type of comment in any of the blogs including the banter nearly every day inevitably and quickly leads away from the original comment subject. Army memories inevitably are limited particularly with in the MMG case just 3 people engaging for a long time.

        I am sure that your engagement with the MMG blog is more than welcome and your comments and style are enjoyed by all. With JB (Sloop) now on board (sorry to interrupt but I must claim a pun here before Jack gets in first)

        It seemed to me to be flourishing by comparison with the other blogs except the Unbelievable which is intended to a catch all topics.

        Having said all that it does seem appropriate that anyone who wishes to comment about say the war in Afghanistan should post their comment on that blog. Ed ?

        ED: Well put JT, you of all Bloggers can see the big picture and comprehend the re-direction that is happening. MMG has developed an enormous dynamic (1,133 comments) – BUT – where next when the bloody page takes yonks to load and we have desertion on a grand scale?

        Why don’t all you participants make some suggestions, democracy ain’t quite dead yet!

      • Sylvia says:

        ED

        Thank you for your candid reply. I shall confine my remarks about Dad to his blog, and only mention our family exploits on this blog. Oh dear that means the bloggers will never know about the Peking ducks or the rabbit with the ‘turnakey’ but hey ho! thats life.

        I would like to keep using this blog, and if some of my comments should really belong on the Unbelivable site than I apologise in advance.

        If I knew what a syntax was I probably wouldn’t make the errors for you to correct, but Army Schools are bl**dy awful and really taught us nothing. Had to go to Adult Education for years to get any qualifications, but still don’t know what one of those is.

        ED: Burning the midnight oil Sylvia? May I add that I see you as part of the solution, not part of the problem. If a random/abstract opinion evolves down the MMG line – so be it – just a reminder to all, that where there IS a dedicated blog for a Memory as important as the RSM (fr’example) – then that’s the first rule of application.

        However, Peking Ducks and ‘turnakeys’ might offer an ‘unbelievable’ comment.

        Would you like me to publish an “Old Recipes” page, or (for me) an “Old Grumpy” page – there’ll be lots of comments there I bet!

        PS: “Old Grumpy’s Page (Editor)” now published. See Blog Title Pages. I have not hotlinked to this text, as I seek to encourage browsing the Titles.

        • Sylvia says:

          ED

          Peking ducks and the rabbits turnakey definitely belong on the RSM’s blog, keep your eyes peeled in the next couple of days and I will relate one of them.

          Am going up the wooden hill now, hopfully to sleep, but I won’t count on it.

          ED: A man orders chop suey in a restaurant. The waiter brings out a pot with a lid but the man’s afraid to eat it because every so often the lid lifts up a wee bit and a wee pair of eyes peer out at him. He calls the waiter over, points it out, and asks “Are you sure that’s chop suey?”. The waiter goes, “Oh sorry sir, my mistake – I’ve brought you Peking duck.”

  53. JT says:

    Daves gone trappin.

  54. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,

    Done Heartbeat Country, all very nice, wasn’t impressed with the pub, much better down your way, makes nice break.

  55. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,
    You’re right, iron is good for you but not in big lumps, get yourself a file boy, proper job. lol.

  56. Sloop JB says:

    JT,

    Thanks for that mate, I’ll try not to fall out with the natives.

    I half hitched a bottle from the hospital ward so I’ll be alright on the journey, will have to be careful not to splash, wet marks on trouser front is dead give away. Thanks JT.

    ED: Ahem! Please ensure that markings on bottles will separate those with lemonade in ’em.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Have a nice time and don’t forget PC Blakedon, Greengrass and Heartbeat didn’t really exist. I used to enjoy that show. Nice scenery, like Bodmin Moor but bigger. Oh, stay away from those Leeds United fans.

  57. JT says:

    Jack

    That recipe from Ed is rubbish. You have to remember that when he left Blighty cooking wasn’t too good here. e.g. Christmas Dinner: “Put brussels sprouts to boil 1st October and simmer til Christmas morning “

  58. Sloop JB says:

    Sylvia,

    Good morning to you. Hope your short break has refreshed you and that you enjoyed it to the full with your three friends.

    No you’re not too late to wish my wife and I a pleasant break, we don’t go until Monday. It’s good to go by coach as someone else is doing the hard bit (driving) which allows me to relax and take in the sights.

  59. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,

    We do have an Assn. here in Taunton, it’s the SLI. I have been invited to join them but have declined.

    I hope very much to see you all at St Petrocs.

    We hope you’re feeling a lot better again this morning.

  60. Sylvia says:

    Hi guys,

    Here I am back from my holidays all rested and a bit browner than when I went away.

    Jack, I am really sorry to hear you haven’t been well I hope you are on the mend.

    JB, I hope I’m not to late to wish you and your better half a pleasant holiday.

    JT, the bicarb on the hair wasn’t a disaster but can’t see any difference really.

    Dave, it doesn’t look like I’ll need those scalps, but keep hold of them you never know I might need them.

    Tom, I didn’t receive the email with Dad’s photos attached. In between my name and the @ there is a 1 (one) you may have left it out or put an l (ell), it is something my friends do some times.

    Will regale you all with my holiday tomorrow, I am absolutely cream crackered so I’m off for a early night.

    Catch you all soon.

    ED: It might be elementary to most, but hereto a reminder about email address accuracy. Instead of manually typing an address, simply use the copy shortcut/paste function on your right mouse/thinggy, from the Senders Address. Presto – accuracy received/returned. Geddit?

    • Tom Howell says:

      Sylvia
      Hopefully got it right this time and the photos should be with you now
      Tom

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi Sylvia.
      Thank you. I’m a lot better now. Just a darn old stomach bug but I must admit, it knocked the stuffing out of me. Half way back to eating again.

      ED: Some dehydrated witchetty grubs on their way to you Jack, cures all! Just cook ’em slowly with 10 x 12″ roofing fasteners for 3 days, after which the nails are delicious.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        Hope the bay window is not losing shape

      • Jack Madron says:

        Ed.
        They say iron is good for you. Don’t they?

        JT.
        Bay window is still the same, unfortunately but legs seem to have gone a bit thinner. Maybe it’s my imagination or something. I haven’t weighed myself lately so don’t know if I have lost any weight.

  61. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,
    I phoned The Keep, I spoke to a young lady because Major Stipling wasn’t there. Apparently we’re all going to get a letter from him explaining things. I already ordered two tickets whilst on phone, I will bear in mind what you’ve said, thank you.

    Take care.
    JB.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Have you got a local LI Assn. Frank told me that Taunton used to have a large Assn at one time.

      I was in the West Cornwall branch quite a few years ago but left because of work. I only rejoined since I’ve got on these blogs. Glad I did. Have met some nice people, including Swanny. Only joking. I’ve known Swanny for many many years. A great character. If he had been in Jamaica, he’d probably have been in S Coy as he was pioneer in Bermuda. Hope to see you at St Petroc’s.

  62. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,

    Thanks for the message about the service. If your bug doesn’t go call your daughter in, perhaps she can do the same for you as she did for the computer. I’m sure you have my right address, it’s all about getting everything geared up right. That’s why I come to the blog, it’s easier.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      It may be that my daughter gave it to me. She and her husband and three children had it about a week or two before me. I’m not blaming them. It could have been something completely different.

      Yes. I’m sure I have your right address. It’s probably just me. Excuse is, I’m still learning. Ha ha. Reason I emailed was I included another phone number, in case you got no joy from The Keep. Frank told me that he had ordered four spares, so if you get stuck, let me know and I’ll phone Frank and see if he’s still got any left.

  63. Sloop JB says:

    Jack,

    Good morning, hope you’re feeling much better after your recent discomfort, this getting old lark don’t do us many favours does it? I don’t think we could do much army drill do you. Get yourself well again.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Good morning JB.
      Thank you for the well wishes. Am a lot better now. I think my little visit to Swanny, yesterday has helped a lot, chatting over old times, etc. JB, I’ve just sent you an email about the St Petroc’s service.

      • Jack Madron says:

        JB.
        Apparently my email failed. Have I got your right address? Anyhow, Frank Baxter, our Branch Hon Sec phoned me about the St Petroc service on the 10th Oct. He said there were free tickets for the service. I said about you may be down and how would you get tickets. He said to phone The Keep. Bodmin. The number is 01208 72810. Major Stipling.

  64. Sloop JB says:

    Swanny,

    Glad to hear your rekindled friendship with Dave Besley is going well. hope you both get together some time.

    Take care, JB.

  65. SWANNY SWANSON says:

    All. Had Jack here yesterday afternoon, glad he is now a lot better after bad bout of stomach trouble for over a week. As usual we had good chat going over the old days etc. On the whole things have gone quieter since the Re-Union, but it is good for all of us to keep in touch with each other as I get a lot of jokes etc sent which I send to all of the bloggers. As Jack and Dave have said it is so nice to have Anne and Sylvia on the blogs with the rest of us. It is so good to have my close mate Dave Besley via his son in law on the blogs. We phone each other on regular basis.

    Best regards to all of you, Swanny.

  66. Jack Madron says:

    Everyone gone AWOL? Better call the red caps out.

  67. Jack Madron says:

    Hi all. Just got on the blog. Switched on just after noon and a notice came up on the screen about a virus. Still being green about this voodoo machine, I didn’t have a clue about it. I believe this was a Trojan. My daughter has just spent about two hours getting rid of it. Thank god. Why do prats want to do this sort of thing?

    • JT says:

      Jack

      I suppose you know that viruses are usually imported from attachments downloaded from emails. For example when people forward jokes which have been passed on via many others and you open the attachment you catch the bug.

      I am lucky to have Apple which is fairly safe but I am still careful and if any doubt just delete the suspect mail and Never open an attachment if I don’t know the sender.

      • Jack Madron says:

        Hi JT.
        I did know roughly about what you just stated. My daughter said that there are a lot smart arsed prats whe can get into PC’s quite easily and sometimes nothing will stop them. I use AVG.

  68. Sloop JB says:

    JT,
    Ay going up north lad ‘Gods Own Coutry’ they think.

    Going to Whitby for fish and chips, will think of you whilst eating them then licking our greasy fingers, cooooo can’t wait.

  69. JT says:

    Calm down Calm down

  70. Sloop JB says:

    Sylvia,
    Good to hear you’re having nice weather for your holiday break. We used to go down Cornwall when we took up their offer, north coast on late year offer, and Looe other times, very relaxing for us. We are off to Scarborough next week on a coach tour, hope the weather holds out.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      Going up t’ North lad? Ee tha’ll ave a grand time oop theer. Now’t like Scarby for some fresh breezes. Best fish and chips in’t world.

      Dress warm

  71. Tom Howell says:

    Sylvia
    Happy to oblige. Will send before I go to bed. To simplify matters will omit captions which you can copy from the blog shots. Enjoy the rest of your holiday.

  72. Sylvia says:

    Hi guys,

    Just to let you all know we are having a great time and the weather has been fabulous, can’t believe we’ve been so lucky, what with all the rain we’ve had the last few weeks.

    Tom

    Thank you so much for sending the photos on Dad’s blog. I wonder if you could e-mail them to me. ED, any chance of giving Tom my e-mail address please. I see Margaret has already thanked you, but wanted to add my thanks to hers.

    Well guys about this orange tissue paper, that was a bit posh we only had the News of the World.

    Did the bananas in Jamacia taste different, and they were smaller I’m sure.

    JT. My late husband had a stent for years, in fact they let him go back to work a while after it was fitted, he drove HGV’s so that proves how reliable they are. I will add he did not die of heart trouble, another reassurance for you.

    Now about this Bi-carb on my hair, I’ve been trying to get one of the other girls to try it, so we are all going to do it tomorrow. So, Dave we might need 4 scalps, can you get them in grey?

    I know where all the flowers have gone, we are all holed up in a chalet on the Kent coast!

    Catch you all soon

    ED: Done Sylvia

    • JT says:

      Sylvia

      Don’t know about the grey scalps. Have to check with Dave. He does a nice line in skunk pelts though. Black with a white stripe. Any good?

      Pre washed in tomato juice or they can be a bit whiffy.

      • JT says:

        Dave get those braves on the warpath. ‘Ee might have an order here. Tell em to stick with the senior citizens for scalps but no blue rinses please.

  73. Sloop JB says:

    JT,
    Don’t know about bananas but I know about the stent. It is quite likely it was made in the factory my daughter works at, they supply the hospitals with them, they have quite a big turn over. My first visit was for a triple A, then this year I had my gall bladder removed.

    Apparently because you had the stent in your heart it will be okay there cause it’s just carrying blood, in my case when they put one in my gut after taking my bladder away it had to come out again because it would have corroded.

  74. JT says:

    After the war did the Government arrange for every child in UK to have a banana ?

  75. Sloop JB says:

    JT,

    I’ve just visited Empire Clyde scroll, left a little thank you. Hope your visit to hospital has paid off and that everything is alright with you now. I went in nearly three years ago, then again earlier this year.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      Well I had a heart attack and they put a stent in. So hoping it will last a bit and not made in China

  76. Sloop JB says:

    JT.

    I’ve only got one thing to say. Thank God I wasn’t born in Yorkshire. Thanks for the You Tube clip.

  77. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    You could be right about it being after the war but hey they were nice, I thought the same as you about the pomegranates, did nothing for me at all. As you say all a long time ago.

  78. JT says:

    The 4 Yorkshiremen

  79. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    With reference to little squares of paper. At that time oranges came wrapped in lovely soft tissue paper, that’s what we called luxury.

    Change the subject, lol.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Oranges in tissue. Wasn’t that after the war? Or maybe not. The old grey cells aren’t what they used to be.

      My earliest recollection of tropical fruit, was near the end of the war when one of the shops in the village got some pomegranates. The biggest disappointment ever. My mother had kept on about them being delicious but when I tried them. Yuk. No pleasing some, I suppose.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      Oranges? Oranges? did you have an uncle in the navy? We are beginning to sound like the 4 Yorkshiremen

  80. Editor says:

    Jack Madron.

    Jack, will you kindly browse the earlier Comments on the RSM’s blog page, as Tom has today replied threadwise, to a comment made by you. One of the traps of replying to older comments.

    • Dave H says:

      I can’t find the RSM’s blog page, where in hell is it?

      • Jack Madron says:

        Dave.
        RSM blog is top of this page. RSM Harold Royffe 1DCLI. It’s between Bloody Unbelievable and Caribbean Re-Union. Some good photos.

        • Dave H says:

          That’s bloody confusing, it don’t take much to confuse this lad. It should have read RSM Harold Royffe’s site. Give that Aussie guy a slap or have him report to the cookhouse for spud peeling.

          ED: Are you still pissed on the bear juice DH? Where the ferking hell are you looking? That’s exactly what the blog page is called, and you’ve logged in (twice) earlier! All the Title Links are hotlinks, just click and presto – ’tis all there. Simple, just like firing your Vickers! (You know, point the sharp end at the bad guys and squeeze the tit.) Good job that navigation and map reading wasn’t a prerequisite for the MMG Platoon!

          PS: Try opening ALL the bloody links to get some idea of the Blog History – some of which is 3 years old! We might then get some good ‘ole LI discipline for individual blogs!

          • Dave H says:

            Ferking Hell this is what you wrote, GEEEZ. Jack Madron.

            Quote “Jack, will you kindly browse the earlier Comments on the RSM’s blog page.” Endquote

            It said nothing about Harold Royffe’s site and here is I looking for just the RSM’s page.

            ED: Yeah Well? Ain’t ferking rocket science is it, how many RSMs are under discussion right now? As stated, all Blog Titles are hotlinked. Pause yer mouse/thinggy over the typematter and a preview of the page content is shown – at least on my PC!

            PS: Those bloggers interested in making a sensible contribution to the multiple blogs are at least expected to familiarise themselves with the territory. Much work, from many, many sources has been inputted into our Regimentally connected blogs and ALL that after over 45 web pages that has entailed 1,000s of hours of editing and includes over 5,000 photos that invariably require ‘doctoring’. I’m buggared if I’m going to have to walk everyone through what is now, writing on the fucking wall of commonsense. In OZ we have a saying “Piss on the pot or git orf!”

            • Dave H says:

              What you are implying, is that I’m stupid. Well you don’t need me on here, so as you say git orf, well I’m orf.

              ED: THE LAST WORD ON THIS MATTER

              I refuse to be badgered any further into this public display of childish debate over a very elementary matter. I have categorically NOT implied that you are stupid. You are what you are – which is a very welcome piss-taking contributor to our Blogs – up and down the line. But as they say – if you can’t handle the heat in the kitchen – then get out!

              But if you or anyone else, for that matter, seeks to indirectly and/or intentionally waste the energies of others, who are intent on building a worthwhile historical exchange of important memories, banter and bull, particularly for the 1950’s leaders of the Regiment, and pull those efforts apart, rather than positively build on ’em – then the choice is clear, as is your’s, Mate.

  81. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H,

    Thank you for the You Tube snippet, very nice I must agree but was it meant for me or JL. Question, where were these guys the first time round? only joking.

    • Dave H says:

      JB it wasn’t for anyone in particular, just that you were all crowing about the old singers. Granted there were some good ones, I just thought I would throw in a bit of new stuff.

  82. Dave H says:

    I would rather be eating them Derek. So how fast do you run to catch them lol You have a great day, hope you catch lots. Bed time here pretty soon.

  83. Dave H says:

    Where have all the flowers gone? Probably in bed snoring their heads off, the old buggers need their zzzzzz I suppose. I bet the Aussie is awake though. Get yer raft out there ED, and go croc hunting.

    ED: Gidday Dave, I’m up and about, doing kayak work today, getting ready for mud crab catching!

  84. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    Thanks for that, brings back loads of memories, always had something to laugh at. We use to go over to my Grandfathers to listen in especially when there was a world class boxing match on. ITMA use to make us laugh, ‘Can I Do You Now Sir’.

    • Jack Madron says:

      This is Fumf speaking. It’s being so cheerful that keeps me going. TTFN.
      What memories. All on Medium Wave radio. No digital in those days.
      My earliest memory of radio, was before the war, Radio Lyons. The forerunner of Luxemburg. My parents had got me a three wheeler bike for my birthday and the radio program gave out my name and told me to go into the bedroom and I would get a nice surprise. Funny thing is, I can’t remember which birthday it was.

  85. JT says:

    Lots of memories on this. Hope it works for you

  86. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    We know only too well how deep we’re in. As for the poor house I helped turn ours into dwelling places for the housing market. Two Way Family Favourites was a two hour show, brought a lot of people enjoyment.

  87. Jack Madron says:

    Anybody remember Two Way Family Favourites ? Sunday lunch time. Was it one or two hours long ?

  88. Sloop JB says:

    Comment

    Who ever put on Forces Favourites should take it to Parliament, tie our pathetic government down and make them listen to this. Then perhaps they will understand how the British feel about what they are doing to our country.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Do you know that our country is really in the brown stuff. I don’t trust any politicians, least of all this lot who are in at the moment but God help us all if Fertface gets in. Bang will go heating allowances, free bus passes and social services will be cut to the bone for a start.

      But hey, why worry. There’s always the poor house.

      • Jack Madron says:

        PS.
        Of course there is the other lot, the not so liberal and don’t know the meaning of democracy.

  89. JT says:

    Dave will be getting up about now.

    Morning Dave.

    • Dave H says:

      JT how did you know I was just getting up, shouldda stayed in bed, only 10C out there. Hey see if you can nick one of those phone boxes like the one on the video. I could put one on the rornt of the drive, I bet it would be a good conversation piece

  90. Do young people understand ANY of this ?

  91. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    I forgot my hot water bottle, too many other things to think about, my Mickey Mouse gas mask don’t fit me now must put in requisite for a bigger size.

    Ann Shelton did have a marvelous voice, I prefered her to Dame Vera, at that time we were spoilt for choice. As for Gentleman Jim he stands beside Nat in my book.

    Rheumatics are already rattling around the old bones, not too bad yet but I’m sure it’ll get a bit more painful in time.

  92. And here’s a special request for Pte Jack Madron serving in BAOR.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Thank you Ed.
      That was an era when singers were singers and no a load of screeching nitwits. Whatever happened to music?

      ED: Not my efforts Jack. The Phantom of the Opera I guess (!) ‘Corse I do know, but confidence prevails.

  93. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    Please forgive me, I forgot to mention we had Vera Lynn singing ‘We’ll meet again’ what a girl she is.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      When we were in Minden, Ann Shelton was the forces sweatheart. Rumour at the time was, Vera went out of favour with the troops because she wouldn’t go to Korea to entertain. As I say, it was only a rumour. I liked both of them singing but must say, my favourite song was White Cliffs of Dover.

      Of course, that was also recorded by another favourite singer of mine, The late Great Jim Reeves.

      I hope you took a hot water bottle in the shelter with you. Can’t afford to get rheumatics at our age.

    • Dave H says:

      JB, this can beat Vera anyday now who could not like this?

  94. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    And my orange juice, I made sure I had vest and a darn site better pair of pants than I was issued with, and no little squares of news paper.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      If you didn’t have the little squares of newspaper you must be one of them posh folk with black market bog rolls.

      Bloody luxury.

  95. Sloop JB says:

    Good morning chaps.
    I’ve just come out of my Anderson air raid shelter, been down there for a few days. Lived on bully beef, prunes out the tin, Smith’s crisps the ones with the salt wrapped in blue paper, also found a couple of bottles of Starky Knight and Ford home brewed beer. I’m sure I heard an ARW shout ‘Turn that bloody light out’

    I’m waving a white flag in hopes everything has settled down again, if not I’ll get some more stock in. Now be good you boys or I’ll put you in the army.

  96. Dave H says:

    Quote
    “Comes the dawn sees the woods all a-twitters.
    Some with rifles and t’others with Vickers.
    The Cordite Twins, v fearless Ed and JT.
    Will partake in a duel – just to see.
    If t’Twins unravel t’knots in their knickers.”

    Unquote

    Don’t give up yer day job just yet, Longfellow

  97. Tom Howell says:

    Jack Madron
    I reported to Bodmin 25 Aug 52. Intake did not start until about 10 days later so spent my time counting out sets of 11 buttons and 11 rings for denims, and amending MML and KR’s – I had a pot of paste and cut out slips to delete ‘King’ and insert ‘Queen’ and delete ‘His’ and insert ‘Her’ and so on.

    When I got to Minden I went straight on an NCO’s Cadre then on to A Coy. I elected not to go the cattle market for S Coy selection as I wanted to remain a rifleman. I met Smoky in 1968 when he was working for MOD police at COD Bicester. Met Gen Tyacke when he came for lunch to 3 Cdo Bde Officers Mess in Singapore. Dick Oram I knew very well from Belize and Bodmin tours

  98. Tom Howell says:

    Sylvia
    Sorry about your Mum. I met her many times of course, particularly in Bodmin. About half an hour ago I emailed some photos to Derek and they should appear on the dedicated site shortly I imagine. One of them is a distant shot on the square at Bodmin and in the background is the big Wolseley I mentioned earlier!

    ED: Thanks Tom. Pix received overnight. Will process and publish. Greatly appreciated. Keith Scudamore and I liaise with most (other) relevant LI stuff and between us we shall create a fine record for the RSM.

    PS: Monday in OZ. RSM’s Page now updated Tom, with your latest 5 photos (doctored). Many thanks.

  99. JT says:

    Jack

    I wouldn’t dream of it but have never actually worked with Dave so how do you choose who is the “No 1” and who loads the belts. Guess you might have to pull the senior soldier bit i.e enlistment date.

    Ed reckons he will be safe at 100 yards.

    On the subject of senior soldier you seem to have lost your place to TH.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      No 1 on the gun was normally an NCO but all were trained to do the job. Even the one who ran hither and zither. Ha ha. If Ed is going to stay at 100yds, I would advise to dig in, real deep.

      Senior soldiers? We’re all civvies now.

  100. Dave H says:

    ED. That Boer War crap you speak of saved a lot of asses in the wars. Hey, I don’t suppose you would like to stand, laydown or sit and let me and Jack take turns with the crap you talk about, fire a belt each at yer?

    • Jack Madron says:

      Dave.
      Methinks there is a trace of envy about the MMGs. It wasn’t our fault they were stuck with guards and parades in the Holiday Isles.

    • JT says:

      Dave

      If Ed takes you up on that how far away can he stand and be safe? More than say 50 yards?

      • Jack Madron says:

        JT.
        Don’t judge us on those two prats who are on you tube, cutting down the tree.
        They wouldn’t be allowed anywhere near S Coy, let alone the MMG platoon.

      • Dave H says:

        JT. Ed knows better than to take us up on that no matter the distance, he can even put an apple on his ‘ed and we will blow the sod off, now sod off

        ED: Oooh! – ‘nuther bite JT.

        PS:

        Comes the dawn sees the woods all a-twitters.
        Some with rifles and t’others with Vickers.
        The Cordite Twins, v fearless Ed and JT.
        Will partake in a duel – just to see.
        If t’Twins unravel t’knots in their knickers.

        • JT says:

          Dave

          Sod off? Thats a bit strong ain’t it? Haven’t you shot that moose or a couple of mule deer for the freezer yet? Bit early?

          • Dave H says:

            I don’t own a gun, crossbow, sling shot, peashooter or a weapon of mass destruction, to kill animals. But I do shoot them with a camera. Anyways they say the meat is a bit strong.

  101. Editor says:

    NAPALM & CORDITE

    Hereto some triggers (pardon the pun) for our 2 erstwhile blogger Mates, ‘Cordite’ Jack and ‘Napalm’ Dave who are always seeking fresher weaponry than the old Boer War crap they are used to.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Ed.
      What modern medium weaponry could hit a target at three miles?

      • JT says:

        Steady on Jack. Are you saying that with the MMG you could sight a target, aim and hit said target? Would the target be say, smaller than the Isle of Wight?

        • Jack Madron says:

          JT.
          With the dial sight and a correct scale map. Yes. Of course, there are some, I expect, couldn’t hit the Isle of Wight even if they were standing on it.

          On a serious note, we know that modern weapons have better metals and ballistics have improved a lot but there was more to firing a vickers than sitting down behind it and pressing the thumb piece.

      • Editor says:

        INTERESTING QUESTION – HYPOTHETICALLY WRITING

        Given that we did shift a gear or two upwards and elevate the nonsense friendly barrack room banter of weaponry from over 50 years ago, we (might) undertake an exercise, that will take us out of the kitchen (that’s a joke Dave!)

        I personally however, am too old a hand to volunteer to do the research to even try to convince you otherwise, but a quick check on Google advises me that many weapons that are available today, would far surpass the Vickers. That weapon indeed did noble service until I believe 1968, but improved ballistics, metals, design and mobility etc etc. put modern military needs above the clear limitations of the ancient MMG.

        Why don’t you – ‘Cordite’ Jack and ‘Napalm’ Dave, the Gelignite Duo, inform us – as a worthwhile exercise and make our mouths water? You two, of all of us, are experienced to be able to make the comparisons – pretending of course that we are – once again – a young, vital, fit Infantry Platoon on patrol in Iraq! Without Capt Hodder as Platoon Cmdr!

        Hells Bells, we might even evolve this blog into a War Gaming platform!

        • Jack Madron says:

          Bugger the war games. I prefer to recall old memories with the unknown friends from the past. We didn’t know each other then but I like to think we have become friends through this blog.

          • Dave H says:

            Right on Jack. Played enough war games. Make Love Not War Ed, its more fun, as for E’s comment above post. True that’s progress, why drive a Ford when you can drive a GM. Long Live The Vickers.

  102. Jack Madron says:

    T Howell.
    I joined in June 1952 at Bodmin. After basic training, I was sent to Minden. Spent a few weeks in B Coy. Hated it. Transferred to S Coy. MMG Pl. Loved it. Our Pl Com was Lt Tim Hodder. Pl Sgts were Dutchy Holland MM. Dick Oram. Our Coy Com was Major Tyack, a real gentleman and CSM Joe Rowley. CSM Smokie Hallet took over from CSM Rowley.

    Lt Peter Rowe took over from Lt Hodder in Plymouth. I didn’t go to Belize with my section as I was sent up to Newcastle on an NCOs course. I stayed in Jamaica till June 55 when I came home for demob.

    Thanks for letting us know about the crossed rifles above stripes.

  103. Sylvia says:

    Evening guys

    Have been up the river watching the children with their boats today, it was very enjoyable.

    Just about to cook some tea, can’t make up my mind whether to have badger burgers, hedgehog hot-pot or squirrel stew, I used to be undecided but now I’m not so sure.

    I’m going home tonight as I am on holiday from Monday. Me and 3 friends are going on a Sun Holiday (you know the £9.50 ones out of the Sun newspaper).

    I shall take you all with me, but may not pop in often with comments. I don’t think you’ll get a word in edgeways, not with 4 women all together.

    Will catch you all soon.

    • David says:

      Sylvia, £9.50. I couldn’t get out of town for that price. Hey you have a great time but don’t desert us altogether now. Do let us know what you are up to.

    • JT says:

      Sylvia

      Great. If I went down to the river to watch the kids and their boats I would be lynched by a mob of bloodthirsty mums.

  104. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Baking powder will do although it does have a flour content as well as Bi Carb. Give it a go on the hair anyway and lets us know the result asap.

    Dave might be able to sell the mix to the squaws in Dog Patch he says. Or trade for beaver pelts more like. He might give us a percentage.

    • Sylvia says:

      JT

      I’m all for a percentage, maybe I can afford to get another horse for my caravan. Am still worried I’ll end up bald, but now I’ve got £.s.d before my eyes I might give it a go.

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        If you go bald no worries. Dave’ll get you a scalp from the reservation. They have got loads in cold store any colour you want. Thats what the braves do now at weekends go down town and take a few. Its cultural innit?

        Like that goddam rain dance.

        • David says:

          JT. Don’t be silly now, there is no cold storage in a teepee. They dry them out in the sun, you should know that. A good thing they didn’t take face fuzz, innit?

          • JT says:

            Dave

            I am really surprised at the observation that there is no refrigeration on the reservation nowadays. Understand that over the border the Injuns are gambling millionaires in some states.

            • Dave H says:

              So they are JT, and there is a Casino 3 miles from here but do you think the big wigs live in teepees? Probably they are in a tax haven in the Caribbean someplace off Shore.

    • David says:

      I think JT should try it on the face fuzz first Sylvia. What you say?

  105. T Howell says:

    For JT
    It is a smaller version of the little white sweets known as TIC-TAC s

    • JT says:

      TH

      Thank you that explains everything perfectly and indicates that you might be barmy enough to enjoy this blog.

      Did you come across the MMG platoon in Jamaica by any chance ?

      • Sylvia says:

        TH

        That was really funny, and as JT has said you will fit in here perfectly. Any chance of telling us what the ‘T’ stands for?

      • David says:

        If he came anywhere near the MMGs we may have shot him. In fact on manoevers, I did shoot an Officer. I was doing guard and the silly bugger forgot the password and I shot him. I said go ahead make my day.

  106. T Howell says:

    For Sylvia
    Sorry I should have referred to Keith Scudamore.

    On Saturday 18 Jan ’58 I was due to get married in Bodmin. Last period of morning was a drill parade which was by agreement with Lt Petrie (Pl Comd) would be cut short to help me on my way. Lo and behold your Dad came round the corner in his big Wolseley and ‘took over’. I had no other choice but to smartly crash to a halt in front of him and barked “Permission to fall out to get married SIR”. It was the only time I had seen him surprised but he rose to the occasion and replied “Carry on Sjt!”. I marched off at the double and left him with my boys and just made the wedding on time. We had a good laugh about it a few days later in the Mess. Because of the training cycle we only had a weekend in Fowey and back to work on Monday morning!

  107. JT says:

    Bit like a cryptic cross word this blog innit ?

    Makes no sense to me at all.

  108. JT says:

    T Howell

    Wots a minor tactic ?

    Swanny had a miner tactic in Bermuda but he doesn’t admit they were minors.

  109. T Howell says:

    For Sylvia
    Sorry I have no knowledge of CSM Cooks’ family situation as he would be unaccompanied in Belize. I have sent a couple of photos of your Dad from Minden days to Keith Scudamore following his appeal. They will be published on a new website shortly with many others I have given him covering BAOR, West Indies and Bodmin. Some were taken 1952-1957 but many were taken as recently as late ’80s and early ’90s when I worked a lot in the West Indies as a project manager.

    ED: T Howell, would appreciate also, copies of any Harold Royffe’s photos that you can make available for our own blog site that honours the RSM.

    .jpegs please (with captions) to djkl157@gmail.com

    • Sylvia says:

      TH

      Thanks for submitting photos of Dad, if you let me know the web site I can go and look.

      Mum had dementia in her later years, and we think she threw away a load of photos, not realising what she was doing, so we have very few of Dads army days.

  110. T Howell says:

    For Editor
    My name is Major T Howell formerly DCLI SCLI RAOC and Commando Forces. I enlisted in DCLI in Aug ’52, serving in Minden, Jamaica and (mainly) Belize. In 1957 was Trg Sjt at the Depot before posting to Mons OCS as Instr in Weapon Skills and Minor Tactics in 1959. Senior staff there persuaded me to go for a commission. Unfortunately I was too old for a Regular infantry commission so opted for RAOC. This proved to be the best thing I could have done as it gave me an interesting and varied career as well as set me up for life after the army.

  111. Sloop JB says:

    ED
    Some real gun swinging. Can I ask, which one were you, the man in the black suit and hat sat at the table or the dude that done the gun swinging.

    Can I be a bit cheeky and take it a bit further. Was this scene shot in a club in Bermuda with the DCLI as actors and was that Rosie that sat on your lap?

    ED: Yeah right JB. By the way, Rosie was bleck!

  112. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    Sorry old son never done jankers. We were on kitchen fatigues. I did say Germany but thinking more about it, most likely Bodmin during training, we also peeled potatos and carrots as well.

  113. JT says:

    Sylvia

    How about mixing vinegar with bi carb into a paste and rubbing into your hair. Try it and let us know what happens, we might be onto a winner here.

    • Sylvia says:

      JT

      Do you want me to be the first one on this blog to lose my hair? I notice you all still have most of your hair. May be all that Brylcream. Dad used to sit in an armchair with a pretty white chair back (antimacassar), which one of us had lovingly embroidered and make a greasy mark all over it. She would put a ‘blue bag’ in the washing to get it white again

      • Sylvia says:

        PS: I’m sure your better halves will remember this more than all of you guys

        • JT says:

          Sylvia

          The Rag and Bone man would give little bags of washing blue or a donkey stone in return for rags and or bones. Sometimes they would give a goldfish in a jam jar.

          The donkey stone was used to whiten the sides of the front door step every day. Once a week fire was let out and the grate black leaded and the copper kettle and ornaments polished.

          Mind you all this was in ‘t North where men were men and women did all the work in’t house. Men had enough to do what with racing pigeons, whippets, ferrets and stuff.

      • Jack Madron says:

        Blue bags. very good for bee and wasp stings.

  114. JT says:

    Sloop

    Seems like you spent a lot of time on jankers in Germany.

  115. Sloop JB says:

    Silvia
    We would throw the salt into the copper then have sacking soaked in vinegar and we had to rub until you could almost see your face reflecting in it. The Sgt or Cpl would be watching so you wouldn’t skive.

    I’m sure no one was having a pop at you really, but you know what men can be like sometimes, after all you were married to one and you do have a son. Keep your chin up.

  116. Sloop JB says:

    Sylvia

    Did you learn about the white vinegar trick the same place as I did. We use to clean the cooking coppers in Germany with it but we used salt with the vinegar.

    • Sylvia says:

      JB

      I learnt about the vinegar from a book somebody gave me, I wouldn’t have thought to put salt in it, maybe that was just for copper.

      Mind you my house smells like a chippy when I’ve finished, but only for a while.

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        Vinegar also used with Bi Carb for many cleaning tasks.

        As to the other matter the blogs are used for many things but are principally intended to relive old memories of our youth and is valued for this and I am sure you find it so. ‘Corse we have a good rant now and then ‘coz we are Old Gits after all.

  117. Sloop JB says:

    Sylvia
    You have every right to say our boys shouldn’t be out there. It’s all about politics, if our Prat Blair wasn’t so quick to follow that Prat Bush perhaps we wouldn’t be in the situation we are in and as for Brown who voted him in anyway.

    You carry on talking about food, flowers, anything you like because all the ranting and raving isn’t going to alter a bloody thing.

    And JT is right, it is their way of living and has been for hundreds of years, who the hell do we think we are with our country the state it’s in to go and tell other people how they should live.

    • Sylvia says:

      Thanks JB,

      I agree wholeheartedly with all the comments made by Mates on the blog, I was a bit upset that anyone would think I was so insensitive to be chatting about our tour of the Caribbean, when our lads are dying needlessly. After all I did start the guys on the food, flowers and places in Jamacia. And I do so love this blog, you all make me laugh. You have certainly made me feel better this morning. Thank you.

  118. Dave Hutchinson says:

    Well Well. He wasn’t that good. Nothing an MMG couldn’t take care of.

    ED: Mmmm, maybe after you’d set up your tripod, pissed in the water cooler and tracked the belt feeds in – Dirty Doc’s pistol would have cleared the leather!

  119. Editor says:

    SOME REAL GUN-SLINGING

    If you have time, browse the entire clip and get the smell of real cordite!

  120. Editor says:

    AHEM!

    All very interesting – your bush tucker recipes and cordite fuelled reminiscences. Maybe I can inquire about your advice on cost saving formulas for kitchen cleansers and (maybe) other snippets of domestic bliss! (I’m smiling).

    There is a fucking war going on in Afghanistan cheps – any advice there? Browse the Afghanistan Blog occasionally.

    • Sylvia says:

      ED

      Sorry Sir, I started all the food talk, I’ll go and sit on the naughty step. As for domestic cleansers, I use white vinegar and water to clean everything!!

      I don’t think us British should be in Afghanistan (may be I shouldn’t say that on here) and the tragic loss of lives, young and old is appalling.

      ED: Just changing gears! (With a smile!)

    • Dave Hutchinson says:

      I think we are all aware that there is a war going on. The aircraft bringing the guys home in their coffins, is pretty well a daily sight here in Canada as well as the UK. Why are we in that country and should we be there is not for us to decide. Its up to our governments, but I do support our troops over there and I shall not be walking the streets with a sign, saying bring our troops home. Rant over.

    • JT says:

      War in Afghanistan

      Well we are told by the assholes that the troops are there to help the neanderthals become democratic but everyone know that Karzai is one of the biggest crooks of all, the so called election was rubbish. There will be no such thing as democracy in Afghanistan, ever.

      Billions of dollars have been and are been stolen by the ruling elite. Little has got through to the general population who in turn are primitive, cruel medieval tribesmen whose only loyalty is to the their local war lord. 90% of heroin sold in UK comes from Afghanistan after all these years.

      The Taliban are only marginally worse that everyone else when it comes to treatment of women and children.

      The Afghan Army are hopelessly inadequate and will change sides when it suits them. No point in training them then. The Police are a horror story in themselves: corrupt and drug ridden with a strong tendency to rape small boys.

      The idea that terrorists are threatening UK from there is rubbish. UK terrorists are mostly home grown. They can be and are being trained in the Sudan and Somaliland. Why would we succeed when the Russians failed?

      So what’s it all about? Saving Pakistan and their nuclear arsenal by engaging the Tallies?

      • Dave Hutchinson says:

        JT. You should never have gone back to the UK. We need someone like you, to sort this country out and I don’t just mean the Dog Patch. One point you made there reminds me of what my late bro-in-law told me years ago. He was in the desert in WW2. He said the Arabs were bloody turncoats, and would change sides to whoever was winning.

        • JT says:

          Dave

          Kipling (not the baker) said you can never buy an Afghan but only rent one. In other words they will always change sides for more money and would prefer to work for both sides and get double the money

  121. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H,
    Red Stripe was there to be had, to my taste it was like lager, even though I drank some I can’t say I enjoyed it.

  122. T Howell says:

    Re aircraft. I was on Bn Advance Party so flew on the Stratocruiser. Kingston was too small to accept large aircraft so we changed aircraft at Montego Bay on to something like a Viking. I returned to UK on a course in May 1955 and did the return trip on Constellation which had a twin tailfin and was not as comfortable. This trip coincided with a rail strike and we were bussed on 3 tonners all the way practically to Bodmin.

    Incidentally as far as I know Tim Hodder left the Army shortly after returning to UK and went to work for Shell Oil Company in London.

    Prior to amalgamation sashes were worn from right to left, afterwards the SLI custom of left to right was adopted.

  123. T Howell says:

    Excuse my interruption, but on question of Johnny Allsopps’ crossed rifles, the position above stripes indicates he was a qualified weapons instructor as distinct from a marksman.

    I did a stint of duty at Cotton Tree Gate main gate to Up Park Camp on my 21st birthday in 1954 and got a photo to prove it. Names mentioned earlier like Capt Tim Hodder, CSM Freddy Thomas, CSM Jock Massie, Sjt Trevor Pope, Sjt Ken Young and CSM D Cook all did time in Belize but not sure if before or after Bermuda.

    ED: Thank for remarks, a welcome addition to our banter, the personnel details are appreciated.

    PS: Can we also be informed as to your Regimental background? Most of the names mentioned are personally known to this Editor, who served with ’em all at various times.

    • Sylvia says:

      T Howell,

      Hi, could I just ask a question, CSM D Cook, did he have a daughter Sally who, unfortunately had polio. I went to school with her if this is the case, we were to young to keep in touch in those days, but I often wonder what happened to her.

      We met up with Jock Massie when Dad was in the DLI in Berlin, which would have been around 1960 to 1963.

      ED: Sylvia, I too am interested in any reply given. (Sgt) Cook was my training sergeant at the Bodmin Depot in November 1953 (16th Intake) and travelled on the Clyde to the West Indies. Jock Massie too, after his transfer from “A” Coy in 1955. Lost any contact since and T Howell’s comments are very interesting.

      I’m also in touch with Bob Smith in Melbourne (son of Cpl Ernie Smith. RIP) born at Bodmin in 1952, who had an older brother. They all lived in the MQ at Bodmin in 1952-1954, and embarked on the Clyde

      • Sylvia says:

        ED

        Can I assume from your comment that D Cook was Sally’s father?

        I probably wouldn’t know Bob Smith, my youngest sister was born in 1952 but in Minden, she was about 18 months old when we went to Jamaica on the Empire Clyde in 1954. We were in Falmouth between Minden and Jamacia, but could possibly have gone to school with his brother, but the name doesn’t ring a bell.

        ED: Yes I believe so. Sgt Cook in Bodmin, November 1954, had a daughter with some infirmity that we were aware of, so too much of a coincidence for the Sgnt to not be someone else. Would be interesting to find out how life developed for her.

        Regarding Ernie Smith, he was a training Corporal at the Depot and at one time assisted Sgt Cook with previous Intakes, although all mucked in with the various Platoons.

  124. Dave H says:

    I see no one has mentioned Red Stripe beer, did you lot not drink beer?

    ED: As I do recall Red Stripe tasted even worse than the served Bermuda Panther Piss label. Lagers were new to British taste, although some draft beers were served warm – Pommie style. Tom Collins (gin based) seemed to be favoured, although rum and coke was cheapest.

  125. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    I don’t know what it cost officers cash wise, everything went on their Mess sheets, we didn’t touch money at all. I’m sure they paid at the end of every month.

  126. JT says:

    Late on parade Dave ?

    • Dave Hutchinson says:

      Not late JT. I do have a life beside computers, and I don’t mean along side either. The Dog Patch needs me to chase the deer out of town, and no I’m not the sheriff.

  127. JT says:

    Sloop

    Can you remember how much per tot in hossifers mess. We paid 6d per shot in Bermuda Sgts Mess and 7 Up mixer was more. Don’t know what Cpls mess or NAAFI charged. Ed?

    ED: No recall I’m afraid. I do remember that a bottle of Coke was an exhorbitant price in Town.

  128. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    I didn’t know the place. We used to like the Paradise Club, bottle of rum middle of table, then go and get coke or orange or seven up, which ever you fancied to put in it. Rum pound a bottle, other stuff dearer.

  129. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    Since I put my last comment I’ve been thinking we are talking of the same place. The name ‘Hot Spot’ sounds familiar, and it’s got to be too much of a coincidence.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      The “Hot Spot” was a little (bar) ? up at the Cross Roads. If memory is right, it was just up the road from the camp. Turn right when you get to the top of the road and it was down on the right hand side.

  130. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    I remember the CO saying we would all pay towards damages, but it’s too long ago to say if we actually did.

  131. Omar K.Yam says:

    Rosie Rosie showed them her bits
    Rosie Rosie had em in fits
    Rosie Rosie for half a crown
    Would stand on a table and jump up and down

  132. Sylvia says:

    Evening guys,

    Just reporting in, I had a wonderful evening yesterday, the food was brilliant and, as I hadn’t seen the girls for ages, lots of gossiping. I couldn’t eat all my meal so had to get a doggy bag, just finished it off for my tea.

    Dave thanks for the recipe, will be trying it very soon so will report back. The recipe for the patties says ground beef, I still think the ones we had in Jamaica were goat (I hope).

    You seem to have spent last night (and your shillings) with Rosie, but I’m a bit concerned about her. I will knit her a vest! don’t want her to catch a cold.

    Great pictures at the top of the page Ed, I do look now. Did the witchedy grubs eat the caravan?

    Having spent the afternoon shopping I know have to catch up on the house(uck)work.

    Catch you all soon.

  133. David says:

    We didn’t go as far as that JB, but we did scare the shit out of the prostitutes in down town Kingston with thunder flashes some nights.

  134. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    You said about drinking in places off bounds. One night a hard nosed regular went out for the evening to have a drink, he ended up in one of the no go areas and he ended up having a damned good hiding. Needless to say revenge had to be taken, so a gang of the lads went down another night and smashed the place to pieces. Next morning everyone was ordered to be on CO’s parade, we all got a lecture and on top of that he deducted money from our wages to pay for the damage that was done.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      The same thing happened in the “Hot Spot” up at the Crossroads. The squaddy was well known around camp.

      • Jack Madron says:

        PS. The place was badly damaged but I don’t know if anything as drastic as paying for damage afterwards.

  135. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    I still don’t know much about cricket. I think you’re right about the England team being there earlier. Even though I live near the Somerset County ground I don’t go in.

    When I was in Sabina Park everything was quiet because the Aussies were knocking the bowling all over the place.

  136. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    I do ramble on a bit, but if there’s a story to tell I tell it.

  137. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    You haven’t been following the plot. If you look at my photos again you will see me sat on the rails of the ship. Brother was I sea sick for the first four days, I didn’t get off my bunk till the fifth day, foolish me went to the galley for breakfast. I was starving, big mistake it didn’t stay with me, never mind said a CSM, clean it up, that’s all I needed.

    We had the same experience in a night club, we were sat having a quiet drink when a pilot and his mate walked in ordered drinks then picked on one of the girls in the bar. She had a sort of boob tube on, the next thing we knew he slapped money on the counter then he peeled tube down, needless to say we were all eyes, this went on until all his change had gone. Then the girl walked away, and then we all put our eyes back in their sockets and carried on drinking.

    • JT says:

      Sorry Sloop

      Plot following will be of prime concern in future. You should write your army memoirs.

  138. JT says:

    Sloop

    Did you go out on the troopship Empire Clyde?

    Reid St. There was bar (club) on Reid St where some of the lads would go to get pissed on rum and pay Rosie a shilling to show them her tits. Swanny knows more about this than me (as he used to draw his pay in shillings)

    Some also against Standing Orders frequented several bars where de coloured folk drank. Most stayed in the Naafi and got pissed weeping over their demob charts.

  139. Sloop JB says:

    JT,
    Help me out here please, I’m sure it’s something simple but what. By the way I like the sound of Reid Street.

  140. JT says:

    Sloop

    Are you an Empire Clyde mon ?

  141. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    Talking about cricket. When we were getting prepared for coming home we had to hand in our tropical gear which left us without dress to do any parades, so we had to make ourselves scarce. So a bunch of us bought tickets and we went to Sabina Park and we saw the WI play the Aussies, that was April 55.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      I can’t remember when I saw the Tests. If it was the Aussies in April 55 then it must have been 54 when the English team were there. The only thing that I remember is the cheering and cushions being thrown in the air when something exciting happened.

      Also at one match, I sat next to CSM Smokie Hallett. S Coy CSM. So I had to behave myself. Didn’t know a lot about cricket but enjoyed the experience very much.

      • Tom Howell says:

        Jack Madron
        I have in my possession a copy of The Jamaica Gleaner dated April 1954 commemorating the West Indies v England 1953/54. Does that clarify matters for you.

        Smoky Hallett was Trg Coy CSM in Bodmin during my time, i.e. immediately after returning from the West Indies. Good chap.

  142. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H
    I dont know about his pants being brown but he was as white as a ghost. If I remember rightly my pants were nearly brown as was a lot of others.

  143. Dave Hutchinson says:

    One more for the Jamaica guys. Did you ever play table tennis? and I think there was billiards in the camp. I think the building was close to the Naafi, there was also a basket ball court.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Dave.
      There was a snooker table in the Cpls Mess next door to the NAAFI. Didn’t play table tennis. but used to have a cricket nets out near the MMGs store. Stumps, coconut matting, the lot. Had to have the matting as the ground was like concrete.

      Talking of cricket. I saw W.Indies v England and W.I v Oz in tests at Sebina Park. One way of getting off duties. Where was the basket ball court? Can’t remember that.

      • JT says:

        Jamaica sounds like a well equipped youth club (or Borstal ?)

        Poor Bermuda lads had to be content with beach parties; American college girls, Ports Island leave camp, the Naafi, various sleezy bars, and Rosie showing her tits for a shilling on Reid Street.

        Occasionally watching the buglers do unhygienic things with Mockingbird and Monkey Face. (The buglers occasionally came up from Jamaica and didn’t know any better poor souls). Swanny of course had his own secret entertainment complex.

      • Dave Hutchinson says:

        Jack, the basket ball court was close to the MMG Stores. You are right JT, we were soldiering in Jamaica, not to be confused with a Butlins Camp like Bermuda.

    • JT says:

      Dave

      You make it all sound so exciting. Any sex ?

  144. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    The only thing I remember about the NAAFI was one guy kept playing AL Jolson music. Went in the big hall to see a film at Sennelager. On the Sunday lunch time we listened to Forces Favourites hoping to here our name mentioned, we had asked for a request but to no avail. Can’t say I recall Dutchy.

  145. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H.
    True story
    Picking up on your comment about thumb nail in breach for inspection. Place Sennelager, German weapon training ranges. We spent two weeks training there, it was fantastic place. A particular Sgt an asshole of a man badgered this private all day every day, this day I suppose the boy had had enough, after we had finished our training for the day the usual drill of clearing your breach took place, we put our thumb nails in position for the Sgt to inspect arms, I was standing beside the boy whom the Sgt upset. When it was his turn to be inspected, as the Sgt put his head forward the boy pulled his trigger had the Sgt been a bit closer his head wold have been a mess. Needless to say he was sent to Bielefield army prison.

    As I said a true story. I expect Jack went to Sennelager.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Spent a lot of time at Sennelager with MG platoon. I was driving in those days. Sgt Dutchy Holland’s driver. Do you remember him?

      Also saw Frankie Howerd on stage there, entertaining the troops. Another great entertainer we had was our own RSM Royffe. Do you remember the shows that were put on in the camp NAAFI in Minden? I think Harold used to recite poems or something. Memory’s a bit vague. Probably something to do with the Dortmunder Pilsner. Ha ha.

    • Dave Hutchinson says:

      A close call eh JT, did the Sarge have brown pants after that?

  146. Sloop JB says:

    Hy Sylvia, can’t remember dad’s car, didn’t even know he had one. The Carib was only a short walk away, but you might also have gone to the Tropical, it was an open air cinema. As you sat there at the evening show you could look up and see the stars twinkling. You talk about Bermuda being Americanised, Jamaica was very much American. When the American ships docked we British just as well been on the moon. I can remember one evening my mate George and myself were down town having a drink when a couple of Yank navy guys came in asked us who we were, when we explained we were British Army boys doing tour of duty they invited us to a big party laid on by their commander. So we went along shook hands with all officers and men then mixed in, what a party that was, afterwards the drove us back camp.

    Jack,I think your rain is just about to pay us a visit, would like to be in Mousehole raining or not. I’m sticking to the thought of goat.

  147. Sloop JB says:

    Good morning one and all. Lots of memories coming to light from you all. I also remember andc an still taste the patties as Jack said coming back from Carib. I’ve often wondered what meat was used in them, I’m hoping twas goat meat. Fried bananas with a sprinkling of sugar and syrup go down a treat, aren’t they called plantains. Have a good day you all.

    • Sylvia says:

      Morning JB,

      I knew there was another name for the green bananas, I just couldn’t remember it. So thanks for the info. Occasionally we would be taken to the pictures so I’m assuming it was the Carib, which must have been in walking distance from Up Park Camp, but I can’t place it. I remember the Hi-Lo supermarket where Mum did the weekly shop, but Dad took us in the car, whether that was because the shopping was heavy or it was to far away, I don’t know.

      Do you remember our car I think it was an Austin 7 with running boards, good job we were only little or we wouldn’t have fitted in the back.

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        In our local market you can get all the Jamaican and African foods

        Plantains
        Yams
        Tropical fish
        Coconuts
        etc etc

        • Sylvia says:

          JT

          I would love that, I do like foreign foods, in Gravesend (not too far from me) there are Indian food shops and I often poke around. Can’t believe that 8 poppadoms are only 35p. OK so you have to grill them, but that only takes 2 secs.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      Luckily “A” Coy in Bermuda were not exposed to dodgy local food as in Jamaica. Well apart from dodgy army food in the cookhouse that is.

      I think the most exotic food they got locally was cheeseburger and fries and banana milk shakes.

      • Sylvia says:

        JT

        Was Bermuda more Americanised than Jamacia, do tell me more about it. Dad went there I do remember his absence, and he bought us home Bermuda shorts and our first T-shirt, much more comfy than the blouses we had to wear.

        • Jack Madron says:

          Ah, what memories are coming back, thanks to this blog.

          JB. I often wondered what meat was in those patties. I hope you’re right about goat. Wish we had some Jamaican weather. At the moment, it’s p*****g down with rain here in Penzance. Mustn’t complain though. South West Water needs it. Must have something to make a profit on. Poor souls.

        • JT says:

          Sylvia

          Yes Bermuda was very Americanized with economy reliant upon American tourists. This was before it became a Tax Haven where the rich crooks now hide their money.

          Very luxurious compared with Jamaica at the time.

          The black population did not have luxurious lives however and when we arrived it was made very clear to us that there would be no social contact with the “coloureds” as they were then called. They were not allowed in Bars or Hotels except as staff..

          They had their own bars and the Brit squaddies (as is natural with them) ignored the brass and were made welcome.

          Yanks had a large Air Base there, also a Marine detachment and Navy facilities. These bases were part of the WW11 Lend Lease deal in return for supplying British with warships and other supplies.

  148. JT says:

    Dave

    In the RAC we had a difficult to explain pistol drill movement “For Inspection Draw Arms”. This ended up with the “broken” barrel of the revolver horizontal and facing to the front so the the inspection was by looking from the rear over your shoulder to see through the empty chambers of the revolver.

    Then “Return Arms” was snapping the barrel to its locked position and retuning to the holster. All done to numbers of course One, Two, Three, etc like most other drill movements.

  149. JT says:

    For inspection port arms, ease springs ?

  150. Dave H says:

    Jack, do you remember wetting you thumb nail when the Officer did a rifle inspection, and sticking your thumb in the breach, and hoping the sun didn’t melt the shine off you boots which took half of the night before, to put on them.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Can’t remember wetting thumbnail Dave, but opening the bolt and sticking thumb in. Orderly Officers on Guard Mounting were the worst.
      Didn’t have any trouble with polish melting. My boots were like glass all over. After all, we were the MMGs.

      Some sarky remarks coming from elsewhere, now. I expect.

  151. Sylvia says:

    Hi guys,

    I watched a programme on the telly the other night, about Jamacian food. Did you ever get chance to try it or where you restricked to English food in the cook house. Did you ever try salt fish and acky, or bread fruit.

    Do you think the ‘banana lady’ was the same one that can around the married quarters, if so her name was Mary. She was a big fat Mama, she used to give us hugs and nearly swallowed us up, but she was lovely, she always had a bit of fruit to give us.

    • Sylvia says:

      PS I remember the ice man delivering the ice, he used to chuck it over the garden fence and we would try and pick it up and take it to the kitchen, it probably wasn’t that heavy but remember we were only little. One of my sisters (it wasn’t me, ‘onest guv), tried to chip it in half with one on Mums knitting needles, the needle slipped and went through her hand. Makes me cringe to think about it even now.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Green bananas and eggs fried in coconut oil. Very nice, but can’t recall salt fish and acky rice. Used to enjoy the patties on the way back to camp from the Carib cinema at the Cross Roads, though.

      • Sylvia says:

        Jack,

        Green bananas, yes I recall those to, can’t imagine what eggs fried in coconut oil would have tasted like. We had chickens in our garden so our eggs were exceptionally fresh. We used to make our gardener (as JB said earlier) shin up the coconut tree and get us a coconut, then we would fight over who was going to drink the milk out of it (I told you we we’re little bu**ers)

    • Dave H says:

      I have had the fried bananas, bread fruit, roasted, acky and rice and peas but wasn’t keen on the salt cod, I loved it all. We used to be able to get the canned acky here in Canada, but not in this small city and of course the patties. I make my own now when I fancy one.

      • Sylvia says:

        Dave,

        Were the patties as hot as I remember them, or was it my delicate little mouth making me think they were hot, I love an Indian meal, not hot hot if you know what I mean, but reasonably hot. In fact I’m going out tomorrow night for one. But those patties used to make my mouth sting. I was going to ask for the recipe, but I expect it’s too long for here. You could always e-mail it to me, my e-mail address is on the jokes that Swanny sends.

        • Dave H says:

          Sylvia, the patties in Jamaica; some were hot and other kinda mild depending where you got them. I love spiced food but my diverticulitis doesn’t, so when I make them I only do the mild ones. No problem tomorrow I shall send you the recipe. I use the frozen pie shell flakey ones, saves messing about making it.

    • Dave H says:

      The lady that came round where we were living was a big lady. Probably the same one Sylvia, she had all kinds of fruit couldn’t sell her mangoes they were free for the picking on the tree outside the billet.

  152. Dave H says:

    Well if my memory serves me right, he did have your dad’s voice.

    • Sylvia says:

      Dave,

      The voice is very similar, but the moustache is wrong, Dad used to wax his to a point. Ooops perhaps I shouldn’t have told you that, but while I’m telling tales out of school, he put weights in his BD’s as well, should I report to the Guard House for insubordination!

      • Jack Madron says:

        Sylvia.
        Your Dad wasn’t the only one who put weights in his BD trousers. I had them from when I was in Minden. We also had elastic bands on the outside of our gaiters when we wore denims. Tuck the bottom of the trouser leg up into the elastic band and it looked neater than just tucked into gaiter tops.

        Can you remember the fatigue parties coming round the MQ spraying for cockroaches? I don’t think it did any harm to the roaches. Also putting our mattresses out in the sun to kill off the bed bugs. Oh happy days.

        • Sylvia says:

          Jack,

          I do remember the cockroach squad, now you mention it. Surprising what stays in the back of your mind, I have relived a lot of my 2/3 years in Jamacia through this blog, and it was 52 years ago that we left.

          The legs of our beds had tins of some sort of liquid that stunk, that was to stop the bed bugs. Mum used to check our beds for scorpions, as you say happy days.

      • Dave H says:

        Sylvia, I don’t remember your Dad having a waxed tash, probably not in Jamaica as the sun would have melted it, ha ha and that wouldn’t look good with an RSM with a droopy tash all dripping with wax.

        • Sylvia says:

          Dave,

          I couldn’t find a close up photo with his waxed tash, but really he did wax his tash. He used to have a ball of wax and would heat it up in his fingers and roll the ends of his tash. And these youngsters think using wax is modern.

  153. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Marching on the square

  154. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H
    Weren’t all the kids called Winston. My wife Peggy and I went on a coach tour a little while back and on the tour with us was a Jamaican fella. After a while we got into conversation and guess what he was named? – Winston – which leads me to think they’re all called that name. He was very pleasant to be with.

  155. Dave H says:

    Sylvia, nice to see you back, oh and your front ha ha. Did you see picture what the Big Massa did for you?

  156. Jack Madron says:

    I wonder how Sylvia has got on today? With all that messing about on the river. I hope she had better weather than we’ve had. Miserable bloody summer. No sun tans, just rust.

    • Sylvia says:

      Jack

      I have just arrived home, and left the messing about on the river, we have had some sun but the winds have really mucked up the racing. It’s a shame because I like to see the children racing there little boats.

      The only good thing this weekend is that some people only come to the regatta week so we haven’t seen them for a year, so lots of gossiping and barbequing and walking. Never mind there is always next year. I shall go back next weekend to see the finals.

      I hope you all had a good weekend

  157. JT says:

    Sloop

    Well make best of it, 60W bulbs will be banned by the Greenies soon. Its the flowers, birds and boys that Fluffy will latch on to.

  158. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H
    I also remember the late suppers or snacks. The film shows weren’t on every night but I can assure you it happened. I use to meet George Crossman, my mate and his Coy mate called ? Cook and we would sit in and watch.

    What made you think I was ranting, JT said about flowers and I tried to make light of it. The 60s flower power?

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hey. You lot must have been mollicoddled after I left. Films in the cookhouse and snacks?
      Remember the dhobi woman and the women selling bananas but no memory of a shoe shine boy.

      • Dave H says:

        Jack, the shoe shine kids name was or is Winston. I think maybe JB can confirm this. God it was bugging me all afternoon and his name just came to me out of the deep blue, (and thats not a Molson Blue JT.)

    • Dave H says:

      JB, did I say you were ranting, if I did I meant JT, as he rants most times. He is old you know.

  159. Sloop JB says:

    JT
    I promise you we are not going down that road, god forbid.

  160. Sloop JB says:

    Jack

    Yes, I do believe it was Lt Dave Margets, as I said he wasn’t a happy chappy. He came into the Mess storming around shouting at us and throwing things around. One of the senior officers put him straight.

  161. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H,
    I did forget the dhoby women, ours was down by the Mess. We looked smart for a while but once the starch gave out we looked a mess again. What about the movie shows in the cookhouse when everything was cleared away.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      On an earlier blog we discussed Jack’s alleged dhobi itch which then I think to a long discussion about drawers cellular, groins in general and inevitably mechanized dandruff.

      I trust this is not going to go the same way.

    • Dave H says:

      JB, I don’t remember going to movies in the cookhouse but we did go there for suppers late as they put on a snack of some sorts.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Yes JT.
      And who was it that said, a good cure was white spirit ? Of course, we didn’t know anything about that sort of thing until you happened to mention it.
      I suppose poor old Swanny will get the blame for all this, after all, he was handy to white spirit, being a pioneer.

  162. Dave H says:

    Jack, on another note, I was talking to Fred Baulch on phone today, he was telling me his missus wasn’t too well so he didn’t get to the Re-Union, as it meant a 4 hr drive, and he didn’t know that you were going to be in Bodmin or he would have gone, as its only 40 mins from his home. Anyways he has lost your phone # and asked me if you could give it to me and I would send it on to him. Email me it Jack, don’t put it on here, OK?

    PS how far from Bodmin do you live?

  163. Dave H says:

    Jack, I wonder if that is the same officer that had a red M.G in Jamaica. He used to zoom around the camp in it and I mean zoom. I don’t think the C.O. liked that too much though.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Dave.
      I think it was you who asked me about the officer and sports car in the first place. I vaguely remembered this officer but couldn’t recall a name. I asked Major Peter Michell, president of our branch, who told me who he was.

      You asked how far I live from Bodmin? It’s about 50 miles, give or take a mile or two. I’ll email my phone number too you.

      • Dave H says:

        Jack, yes it was me who asked you about the sports car, some time ago. I remember it was an older MG and in good nick at the time. Hey maybe you could meet Fred in Bodmin as he said he would like to visit. Anyways I will give him your phone # and you 2 can get things sorted.

  164. Sloop JB says:

    Jack
    I remember all those Officers, the only ones I didn’t care for was Peters Dickie and Cpt Matthews. Lt Rowe I saw in Taunton on a rugby tour with a Cornish team. I can’t recall the name of the Officer who bought himself a car then drove it just outside of camp and wrapped it around a lamp post, not a happy chappy to say the least.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Peter Rowe was into boxing a lot. Unfortunately, he died a few years ago. I did hear that he had a leg amputated but died of complications. Was the officer who wrote his car off called Lt. David Margets? I know he had a red sports car and used to drive around the camp a lot. I believe he was 3in mortar platoon commander.

  165. Sloop JB says:

    Dave H,

    I can remember the humming birds and the small scorpions that used to come into the Mess from time to time. What about the young boys that use to shinny up the palm trees to get the coconuts, and the shoe shine boys. We also had blocks of ice delivered, put into the big box chest and we would pack the beers and light drinks around the ice and if an Officer wanted ice in his drink we had icepicks to chip some off the block.

    sloop

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Nothing worse than a mollycoddled ossifer. One that comes to mind is Lt Pietrie. Do you remember him? Also, do you remember Lt Buggy Rowe and JTs friend, Capt Tim Hodder? Both were my Platoon Commanders, Minden and Jamaica. Not at the same time though. Ha ha.
      On second thoughts, We better not mention JT and Tim Hodder in the same breath. Stand by for some Sgts Mess language.

    • Dave H says:

      JB, you forgot the dhoby woman, the one we had was excellent, yeah I remember the shoeshine boy, nice kid he was, I forget his name, he was always hanging around our huts.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      Young boys indeed? Steady on, you might get Fluffy on to you. Mind you that would be a relief to Dave.

  166. JT says:

    Dave

    Wot crinolines like Scarlett in Gone with the Wind ?

    • Sylvia says:

      ‘Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn’

      I loved that film, just bought it on DVD it’s 6 hours long, don’t know when I’ll have time to watch it.

  167. Dave H says:

    I was impressed by some of the birds in Hope Gardens. In the 50s they wore crinolines. We vacationed in Jamaica about 18 years ago, and Hope Gardens had gone to the dogs (not JTs dogs), pity they have not kept it up.

    • Sylvia says:

      Dave,

      What a shame they let Hope Gardens go to the dogs. Not that I have been back to Jamacia. I have friends who went, they say it’s not safe to go out of the hotel complex, but I don’t know where they stayed so could be talking out of turn, but I have read newspaper reports that don’t put it in good light.

  168. JT says:

    Sloop

    Our resident gunslingers just inhaled too much cordite . Take no notice

  169. Sloop JB says:

    JT.

    Live in harmony man, don’t be afraid of men with big guns, look further than the gun and you’ll see a little softy really, well some of the time, lol.

  170. JT says:

    Sloop

    Crikey, those macho machine gunners will be puzzled by this one. Flowers? Stand by for a quick burst.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      We were to busy soldiering to go to Hope Gardens. After all, we had a Regiment to look after. Didn’t we Dave ?

  171. Sloop JB says:

    Hi Sylvia, Hope Botanical Gardens, now that’s a name from the past. What beautiful flowers and plants there, I was personally impressed by the pineapple plant as it was the first time I’d seen it growing for real.

  172. Dave H says:

    Sylvia, I just logged on here, it’s 4.30pm and a great afternoon, a bit windy but that keeps the humidity away, 29c as of now, saw a mother and 2 fawns on my bike ride today and I could just see them in a hamburger bun Yum Yum. They were a bit big for the barbie though.

    • Sylvia says:

      Dave,

      We could go into business, we could cook the fawns and slice them thinly and use the meat in kebabs, what with my badger burgers we’d be millionaires in no time.

      • Jack Madron says:

        You two ever see the film BAMBI ?

        • Sylvia says:

          Jack

          You got to have a hard heart to get on in business these days, no room for sentimentality. Now let me see Bambi’s Mum was barbequed wasn’t she, so deer kebab can’t be a new idea!

  173. Sylvia says:

    Evening Guys,

    I’ve had a brilliant day and a gorgeous breakfast, the bacon and sausages were nice, but we always seem to lose the eggs through the rungs, don’t know why! perhaps one of you could enlighten me.

    Jack, thanks for putting my mind at rest about the Bill Haley record I really thought I was losing my marbles. Also thanks for reminding me about Fern Gully, of course that made me think of Dunn’s River and Cable Car Beach. We would be taken to Hope Gardens occasionally, not that we wanted to see the gardens but as a treat we would have ‘patties’ they were a bit hot, once our tongues went numb they were lovely.

    Dave, we wouldn’t dream of barbequing the badgers, we roast them on a spit, then go up the river front and sell them as organic burgers.

    I did read the Beano JT and am familiar with Minnie the Minx, we read the Dandy as well, I can’t remember what else we had. Although I think one of us had the Eagle, she must have been a tom-boy.

    I’m off to log on the Skype and chat to my son, so won’t be badgering you all with questions tonight, I’ll do that tomorrow, after I’ve been down the river and watched the children race their boats in the heats to see which ones take part in the races on Monday.

    Good night God bless every one, or in the case of Dave and Ed have a good day.

    • JT says:

      Sylvia

      Wots a rung ?

      • Sylvia says:

        JT

        A rung is the wire bit that you put the food on to cook, I’m sure it’s not called that. Ha ha, but us women aren’t allowed use the BBQ are we, so we wouldn’t know what the bits are called.

  174. JT says:

    Sylvia

    See what you’ve started you little minx. By the way our rescue Spaniel is called Minnie the minx. Do you read the Beano by any chance?

  175. Dave H says:

    JT, I like litte birds that sing, (not the feathered kind). I can make them sing their heads off and scream. Squaws make their own handbags out of Beaver and white mans Face Fuzz.

    • JT says:

      Dave

      Yah. Bet its a long time since you got a bird to sing or scream. You might have got arrested by the Mounties a couple of times for trying to pull one at the Dog Patch Mall

      The Dog Patch Mall: As seen on TV
      For your selective purchases of high class:
      Traps
      Snow Shoes
      Fashionable Mackinaw Shirts
      Blankets
      Ammunition
      Rifles and hand guns our speciality
      Beaver Pelts
      Pemmican for those hungry evenings
      Seal Blubber for those romantic TV snacks with the girlfriend
      Bears teeth (great for your next birthday necklace for the little woman)

      Moose musk, rub it into your body to attract the female moose, if that is your pleasure (Safety warning: It is Not Guaranteed that only the female moose will attend.) etc

  176. JT says:

    Sylvia

    What a refreshing and civilizing influence you are bringing to these old Gits with your nature walk stuff. Maybe get them off their MMG fire power obsessions and think about all things bright and beautiful and little birds that sing for example.

    Trapper Dave would love to have some little badgers around wouldn’t you Dave. Squaws pay heap big wampum for badger handbags?

  177. Sylvia says:

    Hi guys,

    Just back from a brilliant walk along the river, it’s so lovely in the early morning sun. There was an horrendous thunder storm last night so the air is really fresh today. The badgers were out in full force last night, at least 6 of them.

    A few of us are getting together this morning to barbeque breakfast, mmm lovley grub.

    Have a nice day all of you.

  178. Jack Madron says:

    Euro Lottery no good again. I just had one number. Still, what would I do with all that money? What a silly question to ask myself.

    ED:

    Q: What to do about all the begging letters?
    A: Keep sending ’em out!

  179. Dave H says:

    God that ED is a sneaky son of a gun, he pops up everywhere, better watch what you say guys and gal. We might all get axed. Maybe JT could get his friends in Vancouver to send a nags head to Aussie, or they could get the local guys there to send a roo head or a croc’s.

    ED: You’re right DH. What none of you know, is that a business I operated in Melbourne, some while ago, was located above the Mafia HO and gave me valuable connections that remain to this day. So don’t even think to fuck with me

    • Jack Madron says:

      Yes Dave, even watering the garden, he’s got his ears on. As Roscoe P Coaltrain would say.

      I think he’s picked up a few tips from those Abo’s since he’s been down under. No Dream Time for him.

      ED: No way brudder! Only dream time I have is etched onto the deck of my kayak.

      • Jack Madron says:

        You finished that yet, Ed?

        ED: Er, no Jack, still in a state of suspended perfection.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        I seem to remember that Derek got a warning from God about getting his kayak ready for the flood. Well the flood happened in Queensland since then and he’s still etching fickin things on his deck.

        I think there might be a few plagues heading his way – in addition to Dave who has already arrived.

    • Dave H says:

      Oh Derek, you could have conections with JT’ s Mob then, better watch out JT.

  180. John Billett says:

    JT, what is so exiting in that cellar to get you back by day break, if it’s a wine cellar then I understand, if not then watch out for those stakes.

    • JT says:

      Sloop

      Dead right. The wife might be waiting with a sharpened stick and a bag of garlic.

      • Jack Madron says:

        Talking of steaks. I asked Ed to bring some Angus back from Haggis land in June but I expect he was so busy, he completely forgot. Or he thought there was plenty of bull around already.

        ED: Especially for you Jack. A LOAD OF OLD BULL

        • Jack Madron says:

          Bloody hell Ed. You’re quick off the mark tonight.

          ED: Saturday morning here Jack, getting the watering done in the garden before we reach 34C

      • Sylvia says:

        JT

        You’d better watch out next time your better half asks if you want your steak rare or medium, she might have a bag of garlic behind her back.

        Sylvia

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      You’ll find that JT’s signature tune is Meatloaf’s “Bat Out of Hell”. Or it could be, “Fangs For The Memory”. Come to think of it. There’s quite a lot he could use. Willie Nelson’s “Night Life” is another.

  181. John Billett says:

    Sylvia, may one ask how big your caravan is, will it be all sitting around the camp fire eating all in stew and telling experiences from days gone by. Sounds like it could be very interesting, maybe good enough for Ed to open another blog.

    • Sylvia says:

      JB

      The caravan is a five berth, so there’s enough room. Please don’t ask Ed to open another blog, I have enough trouble using this one?

      Sylvia

  182. Dave H says:

    Sylvia, where do we all sleep? I am not sleeping anywhere near JT OK and Fluffy better not be invited.

    • Sylvia says:

      Dave,

      I bring you away on holiday and all you do is whinge. You’ll all have to sleep in this laptop, and who is Fluffy?

      Sylvia

      • Jack Madron says:

        Sylvia.
        Fluffy was one of the first to greet me when I first came on the blog. I happen to mention stripping Vickers (machine guns) and he changed it to vicars. He’s now attached himself to Dave, who also was a machine gunner.
        I think JT has set both of us up with him.

        • JT says:

          Jack

          Not me Gov. If I remember rightly it was that Bunty the ex WRAC WO11 who was pals with Fluffy. Her dad the ex Lt Commander RN knew him in Gib when he, the Lt Comm, had his trouble concerning a stoker mechanic.

          Fluffy was the RN Chaplain in Gib at the time.

          Sylvia you should go back to the old blogs such as Rhyme or Reason etc.

          ED: Sylvia, belay that suggestion to look at the older (archived and shelved) blog sites. JT has a good eye for detail and a good memory too!

          You might have noticed that many of the (formerly) available blog titles have been unpublished and unless there is a good reason to restore ’em, I’d sooner let ’em enjoy their retirement.

          The current spread appears (to me) to offer enough avenues to express opinion on a fair bandwidth of topics; even then the current use across the entire list is quite poor, even to the point that (according to the hidden statistics) some of ’em are no longer being used (like the Afghanistan blog f’rinstance).

    • JT says:

      Sylvia

      Fluffy is a wannabe friend of Daves but I think Dave is playing hard to get.

  183. Sylvia says:

    Guys,

    Now listen up, I’ve brought you all down to the caravan with me, I want you to be good. Don’t make to much of a noise after 10.30pm because the badgers won’t come out to eat the peanuts I’ve put down for them. If you keep a watchful eye out you’ll be able to see all the birds (feathered sort), I won’t mention the blue tits because you’ll all have hey day with the replies.

    Most of all don’t snore!

    Sylvia

  184. JT says:

    Just browsing, nice song

  185. JT says:

    Sylvia

    You will be too young to remember this

    • Sylvia says:

      JT

      I may be too young to remember the song being popular, but I certainly remember the Dansetta, we had one of those, us girls weren’t allowed to play our ‘rubbish’ on it. We also had a Dansetta radio, in fact when I first moved into this house 32 years ago I was still using it. (Aaah! Radio Luxmbourg)

      We bought Frankie Vaughan singing Tower of Strength, Dad said if we played it he was going to rip it up. In fact (see you got me going now) we had a record by either Fats Waller or Fats Domino that was called Rip It Up and he did!

      Sylvia

      • Jack Madron says:

        Sylvia.
        “Rip It Up”. Bill Haley and The Comets. 1955.

        ED: Hotlinked for you Jack!

        • Sylvia says:

          Jack

          Thanks for finding that out for me, my memory must be worse than I thought. As it was 1955 I wonder how we got it? We were in Berlin which would have been 1960/1, now you’ve given me something to ponder on.

          Thanks for the hot link ED

          Sylvia

          • Jack Madron says:

            Sylvia.
            Bill Haley recorded it in 55. It was some time later that it got this side of the pond.

            All American songs took some time to get over here. Example. “You’ll Never Walk Alone”. I remember singing that song with my mates in the back of a 15cwt, going down Fern Gully, Jamaica and that’s years before the scousers murdered it.

  186. John Billett says:

    Hi Sylvia. I must have my sleep can’t imagine what it would be like without, I don’t think I’d be doing housework, I think I’d have to go for a walk.

    • JT says:

      Morning Sloop

      I don’t sleep at night either and I’m OK so long as I get back to the cellar before first light.

      • Sylvia says:

        JT

        So if I see you wandering around at night will I need the garlic? Dave’s got a stock of it I’ll borrow his.

        Why will Dave got nuts because I’ve got may own teeth, (the receipt says £10-10/-11d) he can’t borrow them, I’ve got a big mouth.

        • Dave H says:

          Sylvia, I got my own teef thanks, what’s this about nuts?

          • JT says:

            Dave

            It was a thought that you would be excited that a young woman who had apparently her NATURAL teeth and was in contact with us.

            This might have excited you as we know your ladies wear their teeth down chewing your moccasins and stuff.

  187. John Billett says:

    Good morning all, dont you people sleep? Takes me till lunch time to catch up with all the mail you write then all afternoon trying to answer some of it. Sylvia may have been a young girl then but she’s a big girl now. I’m sure Sylvias taking it all in good clean fun. Have a good day you all.

    • Sylvia says:

      JB

      I just love the banter that goes on in this blog, it makes my day. You are one of the lucky ones being able to sleep. I have trouble getting off to sleep, then I don’t stay asleep long. I’ve been know to be cleaning my kitchen cupboards out at 4 in the morning! Next door neghbours don’t like it much.

      Sylvia

  188. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Jack was around earlier on the other blog.

    • Sylvia says:

      Thanks for answering my questions JT I’ve kept you busy tonight. Which county do you live in.

      Have you ever been back to Bermuda?

      Sylvia

      • Dave H says:

        He won’t go back there Sylvia, the cops are still looking for him, wish I knew why.

        • JT says:

          Dave

          Its not the cops I am worried about. That horses head I ordered for you from the Filipone Family still has not been paid for. How about going 50 50? My old firm charges interest at 1000 % and might start collecting fingers as deposits soon, and hey you are nearer than me to Vancouver.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      I wish you’d stop saying, “I’m round”. More pear shaped, I’d say.

  189. Sylvia says:

    Where’s Jack?

    • Jack Madron says:

      I’m here Sylvia. Been watching football on telly. Hoping Crystal Palace beat Man City. Unfortunately, they lost.

      Are you going to turn Dave into a piece of wood with a split up the middle? Do you wrap your hedgehog in clay before baking? One thing about them is built in tooth picks.

      • Sylvia says:

        Jack

        You are right about the built in tooth picks, but I don’t need them, I don’t have built in teeth!

        Sylvia

        • JT says:

          Wow Jack, we’ve got a winner here, a gal with her own teeth. Dave will go nuts.

          • Jack Madron says:

            Of course they are her own teeth, JT. I bet she has the receipt to prove it as well. She sounds well organised, as well as a good cook. Not many would think of wild plum sauce with hedgehog.

            • Sylvia says:

              Jack

              I do a nice line strawberry jam and mustard pickle sandwich, do you want to come to tea?

              Sylvia

  190. JT says:

    Sylvia

    OK a hex will have to do. Try something with chicken heads and newts blood.

    Just give him a starter hex, nothing too strong poor chap.

    • Sylvia says:

      JT

      OK it’s a deal, don’t think I’ll use chicken though, because I read what some guys did to them in Bermuda, fancy choking the poor things.

      Dave

      I’m about to hex you in true gpyo fashion, if you turn into a clothes peg I’m really sorry, but on the other hand if it goes to well and you win the lottery I demand a share.

      Sylvia

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        The rumour of unnatural practices concerning chickens allegedly performed by SOME of “A” Coy Bermuda was started by Dave. It has yet to be confirmed or denied by anyone from that Company.

      • Dave H says:

        Clothes peg is OK Sylvia. A hedgehog, no bloody way, or your goose is cooked, not you hedgehog.

  191. Editor says:

    TREVOR WEBB’S ARMY DAYS #2

    Now uploaded to new Old Mates Picasa Albums (Military) blog

    Carpe Diem!

  192. JT says:

    Sylvia

    So what’s the gossip then ?

    • Sylvia says:

      Not much gossip really, stupid women next door has been fined for chucking rubble on the grass mound behind our houses. I knew someone would grass her up, she is a bit arrogant and talks down to everyone! Even though there wasn’t much gossip it still took us till nearly midnight to stop chatting.

      The party I went to at my nephews wasn’t as bad as I thought, loads of boom boom music but not very loud, so we stayed until it got chilly and the mossies started biting.

      I will be going awol again soon, the village my caravan is parked in is a yatching community and it’s there’s a Reggatta week starting on Monday, so there will be lots to do and see. And I will be able to sell some ‘lucky ‘eaver’

      I don’t think gypos do spells, I think that is witches, I do a nice line in hexes. Let me know what sort of hex you want me to do on Dave, but don’t be too harsh as he is my mate.

      Hope you all have a good day, catch you later

      Sylvia

      PS. Am pleased that you have resolved your problem about contacting the blog JB hope to hear more from you soon.

      • John Billett says:

        Hello Sylvia, I thought I’d got over but it’s still playing me up. My son Steve keeps prodding me but I still muck it up, had some one selling clothes pegs at my door t’other day, gorgeous looking chick, was that you, take care.
        J B

        • Sylvia says:

          JB

          I wish the gorgeous chick had been me, I’m more the mature grey haired lady now, if you get any more pegs offered can you tell them to get off my pitch!!

          Sylvia

          • John Billett says:

            Hello again Sylvia, there’s nothing wrong with a mature silver haired lady, so I’ve been told. My wife said in future she will answer the front door but I’ll be alright answering the back door. I’m glad you had a pleasant evening at your nephews.

            • JT says:

              Sloop

              Stop flirting with Sylvia she was only a little girl when the clock stopped for us lot in 1954 / 55. Also Jack and Dave will be jealous.

            • Sylvia says:

              JT
              I am wondering if I should venture another question, why do you call JB ‘sloop’?

              Sylvia

            • JT says:

              Sylvia

              John B = Sloop John B .

            • Sylvia says:

              JT

              I was just hanging the washing out, (I have got an abundance of pegs) and I was singing away to myself, when this song came into my head. I came in to tell you I’d realised why you call JB ‘sloop’ and you got there first. I am getting so slow.

              I have to sing to myself, because nobody else wants to listen, they say it’s awful.

              Sylvia

    • Dave H says:

      Sylvia, mossies in the UK, never heard of it, midgies yes but never mossies. Oh I have the garlic ready, or is that just to keep vampires away?

      • JT says:

        Dave

        Yes its true we have Mossies in UK now. One got me on the ankle yesterday. I was just saying I don’t remember them in the olden days.

        Not to be confused with the other type of “Mossies”. we have lots of them as well. It was the insect type that bit me on the ankle by the way.

        • Sylvia says:

          I know I’m going to regret asking this but what is the other mossie, and I thought you lived in Canada, trust me to get it all wrong!

          Sylvia

          • JT says:

            Sylvia

            Yes Dave lives in Dog Patch British Columbia Canada. He is is a trapper. The Mounties would like to interview him.

            The other mossie referred to is the type who bangs his head on the floor and makes the missus wear a burkha.

            • JT says:

              Sylvia

              I used to live in Canada also in British Columbia. Perhaps that is why you are confused.

              Not to worry, we are mostly confused most of the time

            • Jack Madron says:

              Confucius he say.

            • Sylvia says:

              Hi Jack,

              Confucius says
              Woman that cooks beans and peas in the same pot, very unhygenic

              Sylvia

          • Dave H says:

            Sylvia, they kicked him out of Canada.

        • Dave H says:

          JT, I’m so glad we got that cleared up. Which one bit you, that could have been a case of rabies and that could drive you M.A.D and I think you are mad enough!

        • Jack Madron says:

          Are you guys sure those mossies weren’t imported in kitbags back in the fifties ?
          Rumour has it that there were some squaddies sunning themselves in the Caribbean about that time.

  193. Sylvia says:

    Buy me lucky heather guv, it’s me last one and I need to get ‘ome for me tea. Am ‘aving nettle soup and hedgehog with wild plum sauce. Lovely grub.

    By the way, Dave, you will know when you are really down on your luck when the Bible clutchers knock your door and tell you to f**k off!

    Can’t stop, been awol since Saturday and need to go and see my friend over the road and find out what the local gossip is! (Typical woman)

    Sylvia

    • JT says:

      Sylvia

      As our resident gypo could you put a spell on Dave please ?

      • Jack Madron says:

        JT.
        Even I can spell Dave, it’s DAVE. You being so clever with this You Tube thing. I thought you would have put on “Where My Caravan Has Rested” for Sylvia.

        Sylvia.
        You can’t beat a good bit of gossip. Can you?

    • Dave H says:

      Sylvia, one time, 2 nice looking gals came to the door clutching bibles. I wonder why they send young chicks, I asked them if they practiced free love. They told meIi needed to find God. I said no I don’t. I need to find a nice bit of tail. I think they left right then.

  194. Dave H says:

    JT, here is one for ya.

  195. Dave H says:

    JT, I saw that clip some time ago along with some others, I used to like those guys.

  196. JT says:

    Dave

    Did you look at the Steptoe clip ?

  197. Dave H says:

    Wondering where Sylvia has got to, must have got her caravan stuck in the mud, or she is out looking for hedgehogs to roast for dinner.

    • JT says:

      Dave

      I hear from Jack that Sylvia is busy selling clothes pegs and sprigs of lavender to earn a few bucks.

      Love those gypsy caravans. Green credentials excellent 1 horse power, plus production of organic fertiliser.

      • Dave H says:

        JT. I’m sure she will be back after a few people tell her to f**k off. Geeezz those gypos are just as bad as the bible cluchers. Here they are around every week, bible cluchers not gypos.

  198. JT says:

    Sloop

    Any news from you ?

    • John Billett says:

      Hi Guys. I keep making comments . But don’t know what happens to them. Any answers please.

      ED. Nought spammed JB

    • John Billett says:

      Hello JT, not much news from my end; I have been reading all the comments you fellas have been writing. I have to agree with all that’s been said. What a double dyed lot that suppose to represent us, not much to choose between any of them. I did have a say about the bangalor torpedo but my letter disappeared in the ether. I said that support coy demonstrated one at Port Royal when the battalion layed on a Salvo to show the fire power we had, after about two minutes the locals had all hid away, it was unnerving.

      • JT says:

        Sloop

        What did the Bangalor do ? Gawd I thought they went out of fashion around D Day.

        P’raps your comment was removed by MOD coz they still have a couple of million in stock and are still ordering them by mistake. They probably we have 2.5 million pairs of “drawers cellular green” in store and 20 million hosetops and a similar quantity of “puttees khaki” just in case we get called back.

        • John Billett says:

          JT, the metal tube was placed under the barbed wire then it was filled with explosives then when it set off it blew a hole big enough to let the troops through to get on with the job in hand. Talking about drawers cellular, when we were on a scheme in Germany we all decided to go for a swim in the river, drawers cellular acted as our swimming trunks. No one warned us that the German people went out walking Sundays. Needless to say we were stuck in the water for a long time waiting for it to be all clear for us to get out, never done it again.

          • Jack Madron says:

            JB.
            I bet it wasn’t the Weser you swam in.

            We did live firing at Port Royal. We MMGs and 3in mortars gave a demonstration on fire power. Our target was one of the small keys out in the ocean. Any land crabs on there had a bit of a supprise, I bet.

            • John Billett says:

              Hello Jack, can’t remember which river it was, but time we got out prunes come to mind. We were probably all part of the Salvo you and your MMGs, me and my .303 rifle. What a shindig, land crabs and anything else as well.

  199. JT says:

    Dirty old man ?

  200. Dave Hutchinson says:

    JT, if you got rid of the Bay, you couldn’t give the Mrs an excuse to go to the gym to check out the chicks now could you, you Dirty Old Man.

  201. Jack Madron says:

    While we’re on the subject of badges and things. Is there a specific measurement for chevrons, up or down on a tunic sleeve? For example, half way between elbow and shoulder. Trevor Webb’s tape is looking a bit high, #11 Dads Army Pix. Maybe just the angle photo was taken.

    • JT says:

      Jack

      I know what you mean about distortion of photo angles. The reunion photo of me made me look as if I had a bay window.

      • Jack Madron says:

        Yea, JT.
        They say the camera never lies but we know different. I’m sure I’m not as old as I look in those photos. Ha ha. Do you think it’s all those pixels that’s the cause ?

      • Dave H says:

        Yeah, I saw the pics, JT, WOW. Looks like that bay has a double pane

        • JT says:

          Dave

          Do you think I could have a window box on it with geraniums next summer or should I go to the gym and watch almost nekkid young women stretching etc ?

  202. JT says:

    Please note the time of these comments. I am on Wee duty as usual.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      My Marksman Badge was brass on a green felt X like the one Sgt J Alsopp is wearing.

      • Jack Madron says:

        There is a pic on one of the photo blog of a chap with a cloth badge.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        Very posh badge. Dunno then, seems different mobs had different customs. PTI’s wore metal crossed sabres I think.

        • Jack Madron says:

          Found it JT.
          It’s A Coy 1DCLI Home page (website). L/Cpl Peter Hunt. Pete Thatcher with cup for shooting. Cloth crossed rifles.

      • Dave H says:

        I had crossed MMG,s. They were very cross when I got behind it

  203. JT says:

    Search me. I know some Cavalry Regt NCO’s have (or had) metal rank badges above their chevrons.

    Another thing, ages ago Derek got into some query about whether Sgts sashes should hang from the left of right shoulder. I think on some DCLI group pix I have seen recently some are right and some left in same group.

    Trade and qualification badges such as Marksman were cloth and worn as Jack describes.

  204. Jack Madron says:

    All.
    This isn’t a quiz but a genuine question.
    On DCLI blog. JB’s #2 Album. Photo #3 of Sgt John Alsopp being presented with shield for best Platoon. Is there a reason he is wearing his crossed rifles just above his stripes ? I wore mine just above the left cuff, on the pleat. Just being inquisitive, thats all.

  205. JT says:

    Dave

    OK. Sorry I nearly spoke.

  206. Dave H says:

    Right Jack great picture, I was going to ask where it was but forgot, so now you have answered my question. I like sea views and the sound of the waves, puts me to sleep, (shut UP JT) I can read your mind and see the wheels turning.

  207. Dave H says:

    Hi Jack. Here French Fries are chips and chips are Crisps, ha ha, and never say I will knock you up in the morning, unless you want to get prego, ha ha.

    Its not that far to drive for supper Jack, 20 mins I can be there and the view along the way is WOW.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi Dave.
      Don’t know why they call them frog fries. We got the spuds before they did.

      I bet there’s some nice scenery in your part of the world. We’ve got some of our own. What do you think of the picture that Ed has put at the top of the blogs? St Michael’s Mount. Just across the bay from me. The old Cornish name was Carrek Los an Cos. The Grey Rock in the Wood. You can see my home town to the left on the photo and Newlyn, Swanny’s home town, to the right. People say that the Bay of Naples is best in the world but we know different. Ha ha.

  208. Sylvia says:

    JB

    I should just try again, I certainly made mistakes when I first came on here, I put a totally irrevelant comment on the Bermuda blog that I don’t suppose they understood. ED soon put me right and is very helpful.

    Sylvia

  209. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    Thanks for the pix. It’s a long way to come for a cheap fish and chip supper though. Hey, roughly £7-70 is a lot cheaper than we pay and two pieces of fish at that.
    You’re not educating them over there. It’s chips not fries.

  210. Jack Madron says:

    JB.
    I used to get that happen quite often. Still don’t know what I was doing wrong and to be honest, I don’t know what I’m now doing right. Ha ha.

  211. JT says:

    At the end of WW11 there were thousands of British service personnel in the Middle East, Italy, Austria, Trieste and of course BAOR. Many had been overseas for much if not all of the War and were due and overdue for demobilisation.

    There were not enough ships to bring them home due to war losses and requirement for ships to take home American and Commonwealth servicemen and women. Also ships were required to take food from Canada and America to Europe as part of the Marshall Plan.

    A cross country rail route was formed to bring British troops home across Europe to Hook of Holland

    This route was called “Python” and operated for some years.

  212. JT says:

    Come on then “Python” lets be avin’ yer.

    ED: Its a one eyed trouser snake!

  213. Sylvia says:

    Evening guys,

    Hope your all OK, see you’ve been having your own quiz today, I didn’t know what any of the items were!

    JB

    Mum and Dad had some friends, who were in Jamaica with us, who settled in Taunton. Maybe that’s what Dad was doing there. I went to Taunton once, I was driving back from North Devon, and took the wrong exit from the M5 roundabout. So I did what any self respecting women would do, I drove into ASDA did some shopping and then went back to the roundabout and took the exit that leads to A303!

    Sylvia

    • JT says:

      That’s it Sylvia shopping, the great healer.

      • Sylvia says:

        I was a bit embarassed, I had done that journey loads of times, my son lives in Woolacombe, I used to go and see him at least twice a month. I was working then I could afford the petrol! This state pension doesn’t go far does it.

    • John Billett says:

      Hello Sylvia, nice to be speaking to you, we might have stood beside each other in the NAAFI shop all those years ago. Perhaps Mum & Dad were visiting friends I only assumed it was army business. How lucky for ASDA that you took the wrong turning, I don’t know how long ago that was but they have updated the store and it’s massive now, you need a scooter almost to get around, as you say what more could a self respecting woman do, its a pleasure to speak to you.
      God bless you
      J B.

      • Sylvia says:

        JB

        It’s nice to talk to you to, as it is nice to talk to all the guys on this blog. I look forward to reading their bantering.

        I’m off to a party at my sister Eileen’s house, one of her sons is hosting it, needless to say we will only pop our heads in to be polite, I can’t stand all this loud ‘boom boom’ music they play. We will probably go to the Chinese and have a good old gossip.

        Have a nice weekend all of you

        Sylvia

        • Dave H says:

          Sylvia, mind DD&D

        • John Billett says:

          Sylvia, hope you had a pleasant visit to your sisters. I know exactly what you mean about the Boom Boom music, sort of addles your brain doesn’t it, the chinese and gossip is more beneficial, take care.
          J B.

  214. JT says:

    It is not (a) Python just Python

  215. JT says:

    Python Clue

    Talk to any vets who ended the war or ended service until say 1950 in Middle East, Italy, Austria, Trieste.

  216. JT says:

    Jack

    I think the Bangalor torpedo was an device for blowing gaps through barbed wire.
    Dont know about WASP.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Right John. The WASP was a universal carrier fitted with a flame thrower. We had two in Germany but only used them to carry supplies when on manoeuvres.
      What is a Python ? all I could find out was mine destroying contraption.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        WASP I think I saw one in newsreel of liberation of Belsen. The British Army used it to burn down the prisoner huts as they were riddled with typhus .

  217. JT says:

    Swanny

    No its not the RE mine exploding thingy

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      The GWR had pythons. That was the code name for a type of railway wagon. I know that’s not the python you are talking about but don’t tell us yet. Give us a chance to try and guess. Here’s a couple more to stir up the grey cells.
      Bangalor Torpedo ?
      Wasp ?

  218. JT says:

    “Python ” anyone? I bet only Billy Boy knows. Tell us Bill

  219. JT says:

    Re Above

    No Monty Python jokes please

  220. JT says:

    Sylvia

    ‘Old on chuck I am from t’North.

    Now re Python. What was Python in Army terms of the late 40’s and early 50’s? its a quiz question. Winner gets vintage pair drawers cellular circa 1953 (washed).

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      You should have said, drawers cellular, for the use of.

    • Sylvia says:

      Sorry JT, I shouldn’t have said that about Northerners, after all from 59 – 66 we were with the Durham Light Infantry. I did meet some really nice people. I have a downer on them at the moment, as our Newcastle office, decided to make me redundant from their Sevenoaks office, earlier this year.

      I would get on my knees and apologise, but I have grave doubts about getting up again

      Sylvia

      • Dave H says:

        Sylvia, the DLI was where I started my National Service, then I was transfered to DCLI and Jamaica. Jack was just leaving as I got there. He must have known I was on the way there and got out while the going was good.

  221. Dave H says:

    Jack, you should have e-mailed me that, now you have given you know who more ammo to play with. Should have had a pitbull in your ca,r Jack.

    • Sylvia says:

      Jack, you don’t need a pitbull in your car for protection, according to the news a Burmese python will eat intruders. That fixes two problems, you won’t get your car burgled and one less Northener for us to contend with.

      I’m off the join the biggest car park in the world (M25) Let’s hope it’s not too bad today.

      Have a good day/night depending where in the world you all are.

      Sylvia

      • Dave H says:

        Sylvia, I thought you were my friend, that’s not a nice thing to say about us northeners and you have awoken the sleeping dragon JT as well. Now you know what is going to hit the fan ha ha.

        • Dave H says:

          And it serves Jack right, he should have locked the car. Bloody lucky they didn’t take that as well, but maybe it was an old clunker.

          • Sylvia says:

            Dave,

            Please see heartfelt apology I sent to JT. If the s**t is going to hit the fan, perhaps we should send him the drawers celluar for the use of.

            Sylvia

          • Jack Madron says:

            Dave.
            The car was locked and when I checked next morning, it was still locked. The police reckoned they got in by using a tennis ball. Easy when you know how and yes, it was an old estate car. As I said, If it was Liverpool they would have taken everything, including the car.

            Shall I tell everybody about the time I nearly got lynched near Hartlepool ? I bet JT would have a good laugh over that.

            • Dave H says:

              Jack, I think you have posted the Hartlepool episode before or was it an email you sent me. I’m not sure. Now tell me how to use the tennis ball thing, I might lock the keys in my car sometime.

            • Jack Madron says:

              Dave.
              I think I told you the story on Friends Re United.

              I don’t think the tennis ball thing would work on modern car locks. It did on the old tumbler style locks that were well worn. From what I was told, you cut a hole in the ball which fitted over the key hole, hold the catch in at the same time thump the ball. Apparently the blast of air would blow the tumblers up which unlocked the door.
              Of course, when you shut the door the bloody thing relocked itself. I’ve never tried this but that’s what they told me probably happened. The mistake I made was I didn’t have an alarm on the tail gate of the estate. Live and learn.

            • Dave H says:

              Jack. If I see an old car I will try it, coat hangers work on some cars, but its a lot of work trying to hook the catch.

            • JT says:

              Dave and Jack

              A guy told me this story in the pub and swears that it is true. A friend of his took his top of the range BMW into Dublin. He locked his keys in the car. Called AA who attended but could not open a window without damage to get in the car. The cops turned up and could do nothing except getting the car lifted and towed.

              While they were standing around talking about it a kid aged about 12 turned up listened and offered to get the keys out for 10 euros. Bemused the car owner agreed. The kid borrowed a sort of lump hammer from the AA and after removing the hub cap of the front wheel banged the end of the hob hard with the hammer. The door locks sprang open.

              I am told that this is a device to unlock a car on impact in a collision.

            • JT says:

              Jack

              Tell us why they were wanting to lynch you in Hartlepool? Did they think you were a French spy?

            • Jack Madron says:

              JT.
              We were playing a club just outside Hartlepool one Sat night and a lady came up to the stage and asked me if I would sing a song and dedicate it to Hartlepool United FC because they had got promotion that day. I told her that I didn’t know any football songs but she said anything would do. My bass player called to me to do a hillbilly comedy song that we’d rehearsed but had never done on stage. My lead guitarist yelled, “Do that one”. I stepped up to the mic and counted us in. We went straight into, “All Of The Monkeys Ain’t In The Zoo”. Half the club went mad with laughter, the other half, who I took to be from Hartlepool, just sat and looked daggers.

              I hadn’t gave the monkey legend a thought. I’d been set up by my bassist. He was a scouser. Bloody sod.

  222. Dave Hutchinson says:

    No I’m not, I’m just a nice guy, all the nice guys are from the North. Dont’cha no.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Maybe Dave.
      But all the north aren’t nice guys. I know different, having had equipment pilfered from my car in Hartlepool. Of course, I was lucky. We could have been touring Liverpool. Ha ha.

  223. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Watch this guy he is trying to flirt with you. Poor old soul

  224. Dave H says:

    Hi Sylvia. Looks like we have a bunch of deserters, as we 2 are the only ones here. The old lads must be still sleeping, Oh they better not be I think its 3.45 pm in the UK I think. Maybe they are just having a nap. You have a nice day Sylvia Take care and DD&D now

  225. Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

    Morning Guys,

    Hope you all have a good day, think of me, I need to go shopping at Lakeside (Essex) which means going through the Dartford Tunnel. The traffic is backed up already! Mind you, tomorrow I am going to Andover which means down to Junction 12 of the M25, don’t know which day will be worst for traffic.

    May need a bottle of wine by tomorrow night.

    Talk to you all soon

    Sylvia

  226. Dave H says:

    Yeah right JT. Whatever. Keep out of the bloody bakery. Oh and the pub.

  227. Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

    JT

    Sorry to hear you may be starving, you could always eat the frogs and the pigeons, get rid of the temporary cat and shout at the sparrows. That way you would move up the food chain by four places. I you can’t find it in your heart to do these things perhaps Dave will send you some seals innards.

    Jack

    I don’t remember the donkey incident, I may have been at school, but yes the very same geese – I will regale you with that story very soon.

    Dave

    It is definitely a caravan, I picked up gypsy roving ways from following Dad around with the Army. It took me ages to settle anywhere for more than 2 or 3 years. It wasn’t until I had my son I thought I should put down roots and haven’t moved house since.

    Could you spare JT a leg of your skunk, I worried that he may be wasting away.

    Sylvia

    • Jack Madron says:

      Sylvia.
      You should have been in bed, not school. It was the early hours of the morning. I’ll always remember it. April 1st. 1955.

      • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

        Jack,

        I will sleep through anything! what did Dad say, bet he was none to pleased

        Sylvia

        • Jack Madron says:

          Sylvia.
          The story about the donkey is on the RSM Royffe Blog. Under the heading. Do RSM’s Have a Sense of Humour. I bet he was well pleased.

          • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

            Jack

            I must have missed that bit when I read Dad’s blog. He certainly had a sense of humour in our house. He decided we were going to have goose for Christmas dinner, so he bought two they lived at the bottom of the coconut tree in the garden. He told Mum that they shouldn’t be allowed to get wet, so when it rained Mum went running round the garden trying to catch them.

            Can you image the scene, any way she did catch them eventually she dried them off a put them in the woodshed. When Dad came home and wasn’t greeted by the usual geese noise and asked where they were and Mum told him, he laughed and laughed he hadn’t realised she had believed him. But I have to say the geese had the last laugh because 2 weeks before Christmas the female one started laying eggs and as Dad was partial to goose eggs they were reprieved. We called the geese Popeye and Olive, when Popeye died, Olive was shortened to Ollie, and the guys in the Sgts Mess (after a few bevvys) would shout out Ollie Ollie Ollie and the goose would shout back, Oink Oink Oink.

            I always think of that when the Welsh rugby players shout their motto.

            Sylvia

    • Dave H says:

      Sylvia, I know what I would like to send JT , but can’t say on here.

    • Dave H says:

      Sylvia, have you seen JT, I have just seen pictures and I don’t think he is wasting away. Far from it.

      • JT says:

        Dave

        Its just a bad camera angle and a trick of the light. Exaggerates what appears to be a bay window. I blame the photographer really. You cant get the the staff nowadays can you.

  228. JT says:

    Dave

    You’ve been too long in the bush. We don’t call them trailers. Did you ever watch Trailer Park Boys ? Brilliant. Watch clips on You Tube.

    You should recognize skunk be now. Get out that jumbo size can of tomato juice ready.

    • Dave H says:

      Trailer Park boys. JT, you watch that garbage not me. I watch other garbage, (joking). I don’t watch much TV at all, there isn’t a bad show on now. It’s called Defying Gravity, but its a Yank show.

  229. Dave H says:

    Sylvia, do you mean you have a house trailer. A caravan is what gypsies live in. JT is more the gypsy I think.

  230. Dave H says:

    Sylvia. You know I can smell something out back shall check it out, maybe horses head, or maybe a skunk, (No! I didn’t mean you JT)

  231. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Thanks for asking. Geoffrey is still with us and has all kinds of goldfish goodies. Luckily he doesn’t eat much. As usual I have moved to the bottom of the food chain

    Ahead of me:
    2 dogs
    1 Goldfish
    12 or so Sparrows in the garden (big seed consumers)
    Numerous visiting pigeons
    Frogs in the little pond
    As of yesterday stray elderly cat (temporary ?)

    The horses head is probably in transit to Dave I think but UPS seem to have mislaid it. (bit niffy by now I guess.) He won’t mind that. They eat raw seal innards you know and leave their old grannies on the ice to die.

  232. Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

    Hi Guys,

    Yep! did go awol, I have a caravan on a site by the river Crouch. Now I know that sounds posh, but it is a five berth 16 foot caravan, not one of your state of the art 32 foot long 12 foot wide jobbies. So I went down there for almost a week and forgot to take the laptop.

    Have enjoyed catching up with you guys, thanks for the tune JT, that took me back about 30 odd years. I would like to know what happened to the gold fish, did it end up in the goldfish bowl in the sky via the big white bowl in the bathroom or did it get parole. And what about the horses head and the RCMP, come on guys I need endings to your stories!

    Want another of my memories from Jamacia, it’s a shame you weren’t at Up Park Camp. Our garden was huge, loads of fruit trees etc, we would shin up the tree and eat the mangos, even if they were still green. So Mum would say ‘have you been up the mango tree’ and we would open our eyes all innoccent, like only little girls can, and say ‘no Mum’ even though we had mango juice all down our clothes and round our mouths. The punishment was not being allowed to listen to the story Mum read us before we went to bed.

    I’ll leave you know for a while, because I can hear you all yawning. But be warned I shall be back probably with the story about the Peking ducks, or may be the two geese.

    Have a good day all of you

    Sylvia

    • Jack Madron says:

      Myten Da all.
      Sylvia, you and JT are early risers. 7:12 and 8:57 am. What unearthly times of the night.

      Sylvia. Were the geese there when I sent the IC Relief and one of the guard, up to get the donkey out of your garden? Which wasn’t there, by the way.

      I remember the first mango I ever tasted. It came off the tree outside S Coy office and was picked by a Jamaican. I didn’t like it, probably wasn’t ripe but I do like them now.
      Happy days.

      • JT says:

        Jack are you implying that you didn’t like the mango just because it was picked by a Jamaican ?

        You want to watch your words laddie.

        Dese Yardies got de transport mon. BMW’s you name it. Aint that far from Brixton (London) to Penzance. Due North M1 innit ?

        • Jack Madron says:

          JT’
          They didn’t have Yardies in Jamaica when we were there but they did have a large gang that just about ran Kingston. Called themselves the Mou Mou, after the Kenya lot and just as bad. Don’t know if they were affiliated (hell, that’s a big word for a Tues night) to that lot, you were with in Canada.

  233. JT says:

    Alike for those who for To Day prepare,
    And those that after Tomorrow stare,
    A Muezzin from the Tower of Darkness cries
    “Fools ! your reward is neither Here nor There !”

    Omar K

  234. JT says:

    Dave

    Get a grip of yourself man. Er, but don’t tell us about what you are gripping necessarily.

    Sylvia seems to be awol. Have you upset her?

    • Dave H says:

      JT – a GRIP. No, not me only the guys in Bermuda choked their chicken, they had nowt else to do. Maybe I did upset Sylvia, as I tend to upset most people on different sites I’m in – who knows?

  235. Dave H says:

    Blimey, I think I’m going to have a root canal.

  236. Dave H says:

    Quote Ed: “Basically, our common interest is the Regiment. If you contain your blogged comments to the particular Blog Title that is available, then you can’t go far wrong. Horses for Courses!” EndQuote

    What are you saying here Derek, we should only blog regiment things, If that’s what you mean, how much blogging can one come up with? I know I can’t come up with that much, maybe JT can, so maybe I will bow out for awhile and see how things go.

    ED: Dave, I have expressly NOT said or implied that at all. I said that we have the Regiment as a common interest, simply that. What eventuates further to the ‘mateship’ factor is obvious. We ALL have varying opinions, means and nuances of expression and topics to banter about. I would not have gone to the extreme that I have done to produce a wide variety of Blog Titles if I were intent on limiting the conversations.

    ‘Tis no good anyone bleating about relative difficulties, confusion and perplexities, if the Commentator creates an issue and expects others to unravel the ball of knitting yarn.

    What I am saying is that there are optimal choices for proper placement of chosen topics without chundering up an existing blog ‘cos the lazy fucker in question can’t work target blogs out in the first instance.

    I can prove beyond doubt that we get the ‘hits’ – now over 300 daily across ALL blogs (see facts on DCLI blog) – some more so than others. I seek to attract more Old Mates to ‘getaroundtuit’ and not get nuked at first attempt. We have now almost 3 years under our belt and nothing happens on these Blogs of which I am not aware. 60 Old Mates and Families from the Caribbean attended our Bodmin Re-Union Lunch on 11th June, most would have, or have access to computers. All of ’em would have a family member with some sort of nouse to write Comments etc. These are the recruits (if you like) that we want and need on OUR Blogs.

    We are, I believe, a highly mixed bag of intellectual Old Mates, with ample issues going on in the planet and our respectively chosen countries of domicile, to bullshit, grump, banter and take the piss – so why isn’t that being done AND positioned on the appropriate blog?

    Carpe Diem!

  237. Dave H says:

    This is for Jack.

  238. Editor says:

    TO BLOG OR NOT TO BLOG & WHERE?

    Here we are on the MMG blog, debating a wider issue that affects all blogs – why here? Answer – ‘cos this is the one singlemost blog that is currently heavily used.

    The original Blog concept grew from a string of related ‘conversations’ on a specific point, which gave rise to an offered selection of separate blog pages. The problem is that the ‘page at view’ shows mainly the current comment. The reader needs to scroll back and forth etc to earlier ‘pages’ to get involved with the topic. This sometimes is confusing, but then so was LI drill in the beginning.

    The complex nature of human interests, married with military specifics – some over 50 odd years ago – makes for difficult organisation. ‘Tis like having a battalion of blokes, all shapes, colours and sizes with different skills and each one speaking in a different tongue. Try being an RSM to that lot! – and having to correct the punctuation!

    Basically, our common interest is the Regiment. If you contain your blogged comments to the particular Blog Title that is available, then you can’t go far wrong. Horses for Courses!

    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it

    — Omar Khayyam

  239. JT says:

    Thanks Jack

    For you Sylvia

  240. JT says:

    Ed

    The new “A”Coy blog is clearly not taking root. P’raps my initial remark is not helpful.

  241. JT says:

    Re Fred Thomas. Sorry I don’t mean JB’s pictures.

    Ed plse consider getting rid of or archiving ? some (most) of these blogs they are driving me – for one f….g bananas.

    ED: Trevor Webb’s photos – not JB’s. Yes JT, I too picked up the seeming error, as Fred Thomas was 4 Platoon Sergeant in “A” Company. There might however be another Fred Thomas. Trevor will know, as he spent time in Bermuda too.

    PS: Now heard from Trevor – and yes ’tis an error on his part. ID of sergeant unknown.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      Know what you mean about all the blogs but which ones? After all, Ed has put a lot of work in with these blogs and I for one wouldn’t like to choose.

      You’re quick with these You Tube things. I’ve found some old cassette live recordings of the band. Must try and see if I can put them on disc or something, then put on You Tube with some pix.

  242. Editor says:

    UPDATE – UPDATE – NEW FEATURE – DCLI BLOG PAGE.

    I have today decided to display a brand new option to show your old military photos, without having to resort to an upload to the existing websites.

    I invite you all to follow Trevor Webb’s and John Billett’s lead in forwarding military photos by email (.jpeg) attachments, which I shall then bundle into a new individual (Your Name etc) Picasa Photo Album that will be uploaded to the public view. A link will then be published on the DCLI Blog Page header, where you can click until you go blind and grow hairs on the palm of your hands!

    Just note the page leader comments applicable to printed matter and do your best as good LI Riflemen (Yeah Yeah! I know ALL about you bullshitting MMG’rs!) and identify each file accurately as the file name. Kindly avoid lengthy descriptions in a separate email, which gives me fucking headaches trying to sort ’em out!

    GOYA!

    • John Billett says:

      Hi Ed,

      You have guessed by now that my son Steve is behind what is happening here with my blessing of course. He should have been in the DCLI with me he would have loved it. Thanks for your understanding.

      J B.

      • JT says:

        Ed and JB

        One of the JB pix saying it is Fred Thomas looks (a bit) like him the other does not. I knew Fred quite well in Bermuda. I didn’t remember him coming from Jamaica but he did arrive in Bermuda after Empire Clyde

        Any “A”Coy comments?

  243. Dave H says:

    JT, Don’t be silly, one can’t type with an accent, anyway its Jamaican, remember some of us were there doing our bit, not like some who were at Butlins in Bermuda.

  244. John Billett says:

    To Ed,
    Sorry to trouble you again today, did you receive the photo’s Steve sent to you on 6th August, Peg and me at the keep, and some with John Allsopp in? If not we will resend them

    Many thanks

    JB

    ED: Yes arrived OK JB. Still working out where to place ’em.

    PS: JB, now uploaded as a new feature on the DCLI blog page leader. You’ll need to add captions as usual. See comment on the MMG blog page.

  245. JT says:

    Dave

    You seem to be writing with a Quebecois accent have you been in the woods again with those Trappers from the East? Expect they are all called Le Blanc

    By the way tell ’em there is no market for Beaver Top Hats anymore.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      They wouldn’t be from the well known family Bulleted Le Blanc ? Would they ?

  246. John Billett says:

    Hi cheps, where are you all? Have you all gone to visit Dave H in Canada? I have removed the URL from the (comment block/space) to see if my message comes through quicker.
    JB

    ED: Housekeeping: JB, we operate a Spam filter named Akismet, which is highly efficient. After 5,000 genuine comments, we have blocked over 6,000 junk mailouts and so far only 4 genuine postings from Jack and all of those of yours with the Picasa URL have been blocked. The option to release blocked mail, functions at the editorial checkpoint – so often I am 10 hours after your posting – due to the time variance, UK to OZ. Your choice to continue with that in mind. Eventually, Akismet identifies you as a ‘authorised’ Contributor and will pass you on automatically. Your choice also to remove email addresses shown in the body text is wise too, as an exposed email address will attract unwelcome mail. Your logged email address in the comment/block is not revealed, except to the Editor.

    PS: While on housekeeping. If you will kindly alter your name to upper and lower case where applicable in your next Comment, you will find that your name is shown correctly with a capital J and B.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      Just see me go if I get the Lottery. With my luck, I’ll be staying here. Hey mate. Slow down a bit on the PC. All this talk of URL and website block. What next? Ha ha.

      • John Billett says:

        Hi Jack,
        Looks like your luck with the lottery is as good as mine, put it in the pot for some one else to pick up. Don’t be to alarmed at what is happening this end with laptop, its not me quite a bit of the time, my son Steve is there and does it while I’m thinking about it.
        JB

  247. Dave H says:

    JT. It you dem looking for not me, If see them I will tell them where you at OK, did you have face fuzz when you worked for them?

  248. Dave H says:

    Jack, you should see some of the crap that the ocean going ships discharge into the Great Lakes here and so hard to catch them at it, so can you imagine what they are doing far out at sea where they are sure they can’t be caught. Now go eat your fish and chips. At our age I don’t think we should worry too much what might kill us but I heard that some guy with dark skin from Vancouver is looking for JT and he is carrying a bag of cement.

    • JT says:

      Dave

      Shit. They must be mad if they sent a guy all the way to Dog Patch. Better pay them. Guess I should pay them the horses head.

      • JT says:

        Dave, can you get the Mounties to put a road block on the Richter Pass? You may be a target.

  249. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    You are probably right about the lake fish but we get ours from the deep Atlantic. Only pollutants we get is on the surface. All the crap that drifts down the Irish Sea from Liverpool.

  250. Dave H says:

    Just a word here about the fish. Bottom feeders are the worst fish you can eat. Might taste best, but they pick up all the pollutants that settle in the mud and sand. I won’t touch them at all, mercury is the worst out in the lakes here.

  251. JT says:

    Jack
    ditto

    See above. I must say you did look bleary eyed when I saw you in Cornwall . I just assumed it was that so called Panthers Piss beer you were drinking.

    I never get bleary eyed on the Ozzie Screech red wine I drink in considerable quantities but I do fall down from time to time.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JT.
      All MMGs are bleary eyed. I think it was all those days, weeks, months looking out for those rifle coy bods. Somebody had to look after them.

      That red wine, they are now saying it’s good for you. Think I’ll get a bottle.

      • Jack Madron says:

        The only fish I know anything about is coated in batter. Ling, whiting, mackerel. Very nice. Also a nice bit of monkfish is very nice but to bloody dear. Swanny keeps tropical fish.

        • JT says:

          Now thats interesting Jack.

          When we were in Cornwall and mentioned mackerel. I think it was at the British Legion in Heamoor several of the wives said they never ate them “because they were scavengers”

        • JT says:

          Jack

          Thought you would have some contacts in Newlyn for your fish

          • Jack Madron says:

            JT.
            All the best fish are scavengers. Prawns. Lobster. Crab. Loverly. The only contact for fish that I had was my father. He used to moan about the farmers who used to scrounge fish but if a fisherman tried to scrounge a turnip or cabbage, oh no, they cost money. Tight fisted sods.

  252. JT says:

    Dave

    On a personal and perhaps delicate note would you describe yourself as “Bleary Eyed”. This condition may be caused by unnatural practices usually of a nocturnal nature. You are not obliged to say anything but anything you do say may be given in evidence at a Court Martial

  253. JT says:

    Dave

    Thought we saw a photo of you ice fishing.

  254. Dave H says:

    OK I’m off to the local coffee shop. Have a great day all of you, got to look for my hard hat just in case there are any arrows flying about. Can’t trust these natives

  255. john billett says:

    author: JB
    comment

    Hello Guys, just been browsing your mail to each other. Where do you get all your wit from. Do you think we should send Dave one of those uniforms that we see from time to time at Bodmin, the ones they used to wear during the American wars.

    Whilst we are talking fish and chips where were we when the cook SGT served us up fish and chips all wrapped in paper, was it Germany or the Carib. I’m sure one of you can remember. Keep scoring points I like it. Hello Sylvia, I met your father didn’t have a lot of contact but I will never forget him, last time Isaw him he was in Taunton, I dare say he was visiting the SLI barracks.

    Take care everyone where ever you are.

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      I can’t remember any fish and chips in Germany or Jamaica except the NAAFI in Minden. The only thing I can remember from the cookhouse is the ground coffee. That was well named. Ground. Pure earth.

      We were camped at Port Royal and Sgt Dutchy Holland and myself used to go fishing every evening. Never caught a thing but got a fright one evening when a manta ray came out of the water not far from us. At the time, we were standing on the outer edge of the swimming pool, if you can remember it.

    • JT says:

      JB

      Yes we could send Dave that gear. He would love to show off Dog Patch BC. He might send us food parcels just like in WW11.

    • Dave H says:

      JB, excuse me, I do not live in the USA, nor would I ever live there, what gear are you talking about? I think JT is all confused.

      • John Billett says:

        Hi Dave H,

        Reference to gear we were saying about, if you can get onto You Tube, watch my video and you will see the very uniform, that’s if my son has arranged it.

        Take care J B.

        ED: “Bodmin Open day 2008” hotlinked to JB name above. Is this what you refer to JB?

  256. JT says:

    For Sylvia

  257. JT says:

    There is a new “A” Coy blog and we just have to clean up our act. Although I have been drafted in to your blog from the Bermuda triangle (not being blessed with a Jamaica posting) (snigger). I was a Sgt you know.

    Lets be serious folks. Now then we have a new goldfish, not that we had an older one. Thing is Annie has confiscated it from a child next door but one. We were looking after it while they were on holiday. (Do keep awake Dave).

    They kept it in a small round bowl. Annie went out and bought an aquarium plus filter, huge quantities of food, medications, toys etc . The kid has been told by his parents (who do not like the fish) that the fish has gone to heaven.

    I have been put in charge of Geoffrey (that’s his name) and get light duties in the dog walking department as reward.

    I was thinking that as Jack and many of the other Cornish lads have family commercial fishing backgrounds I can get a few tips from time to time.

    Time for a snoooooooooooze

    • Dave H says:

      Geeez, I’m gob smacked as they say. JT no wonder you have to go snooooz after all that typing. Your one typing finger must be really tired, another thing I don’t ice fish. Ice here doesn’t taste that good. As for Goldie, flush it down the toilet, then start breeding budgies. Oh can’t do that can you, can’t keep live stock in London can you. OK how about pimping, that should suit you, but no sampling of the merchandise now.

      • JT says:

        Dave

        Thanks a million for the advice about the goldfish. Flushing it down the bog is sure to get me mucho brownie points. (Not). Then back to heavy duty dog walks.

      • JT says:

        Dave

        Well in the 1950s the old “walking out” finger getting exercised was the best we could hope for and I do type with this digit. Say no more.

  258. JT says:

    Hi Jack

    Wots a Ribbit?

    I see Ed has opened a new “A” Coy Blog. Perhaps some Bermuda bods might venture onto it. You, Dave and JB have a blog all to yourselves. Oh. Now you have Sylvia as well.

  259. JT says:

    Cabin Fever

  260. JT says:

    Ice fishing in Canada.

    Me? I just go down the road to the chippy.” Cod, chips and mushy peas please “No wonder Dave gets pissed off.

  261. JT says:

    JB

    Note. These trappers do not trap frogs. Gawd, you have to be so careful in these blogs or Jack will get in so fast.

    • Dave H says:

      You rescinded that pretty fast, as we all know its the Frenchies that trap frogs. Our lot trap beavers, (both kinds ). Nothing like a nice fat beaver and not the 4 legged kind either.

  262. JT says:

    John Billet

    Hope you come on to this blog regularly. Don’t worry about Dave. He gets cabin fever from time to time. Its not easy for our lad out there in Dog Patch BC with only Injuns and Frog trappers for company.

    He will be better when the lake freezes and he can go ice fishing again (I know, I know, but he seems to enjoy it)

  263. JT says:

    Dave

    Do you think the family will charge me for the horses head now I have cancelled it? It was a spur of the moment thing.

  264. JT says:

    Jack

    I see the Fluffy is back on the B Unbelievable Blog. Looks like he has latched on to Dave at last.

    Dave will chew his coonskin cap and kick the hogs when he reads it.

  265. Dave H says:

    Swanny, a ladies Man? I heard it was Jack. You know these guys in bands, how the chicks went after them.

    • JT says:

      Wot Bands? Hair bands?

      • Jack Madron says:

        JT. DH.
        Ladies. I only got caught when I ran out of breath aged 29. I should have let myself get caught a lot sooner.

        From what I’ve heard, the lads in Bermuda should have been re-trained. Not, much more restrained.

        JT. Had our LI Assn meeting tonight and you will be pleased to know we are not having our Lucknow Dinner in November at the Union Hotel. Swanny and I said we wouldn’t be going there again.

      • Dave H says:

        A band around your neck pulled tight, or better still lower down your anatomy. (Jack, want to borrow my oxygen tank or maybe my scuba tank, it will last longer?)

  266. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Except for Swanny of of course who has a certain reputation as a ladies man.

  267. JT says:

    Sylvia

    I think you should go to another of the blogs. You can see how crude this Jamaica lot are. The “A” Coy Bermuda lads are much more restrained.

    • Dave H says:

      JT. We are not crude, if you think we are its because Jack and I have been hanging out with you lot too much. Sylvia, I have said it before, we MMGs are the Creme De Crop. JT, just BS too much.

    • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

      A company are so restrained that it looks to me like nobody is using the blog, and they were in Bermuda. And you all make me laugh, which is precious in itself.

      My late husband was a long distance lorry driver and a Cockney, I expect I could teach you crude! Can’t stay and banter tonight, am going to talk to my son, who lives in Devon, on Skype.

      Talk to you all soon

      Sylvia

  268. JT says:

    Dave

    Thanks for that. I did not learn much Itie at the Penthouse. If you get the Horses Head next weekend. Just tell UPS that its a mistake and don’t sign for it.

    Don’t worry about the cost, The Famiglia will deal with that as they do. Mickie is still alive I believe.

  269. Dave H says:

    JT, it’s ‘buon’ not ‘bon’. Well you have a nice day too, you need to brush up on your Italiano

  270. JT says:

    Bon Giorno Dave

  271. JT says:

    Jack

    They were the Mafia family I worked for in Vancouver. Dave might get a horses head in his bed anytime now.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Stay away from that lot John. At your age, they could be bad for your health.
      When you worked for them, was that before or after you joined the police ?

      • Dave H says:

        Jack are you telling me that our JT was a cop? See JT, if you had stayed in Canada you could have been a Mountie and mounted. OH never mind.

    • Dave H says:

      JT, I would rather have a nice pussy, than a horse’s head.

  272. Jack Madron says:

    La Famiglia Filipone.
    Tavas Kernewek ?

  273. La Famiglia Filipone says:

    Dave

    Guardilo il sole

  274. JT says:

    Dave

    When quoting Ross Filipone I was paraphrasing of course.

    Snigger

  275. JT says:

    Careful Dave

    When the Penthouse club folded for a mere 14 alcohol offences plus a few pending drug, vice and homicide cases the boss Ross Filipone said to me something like “Jahn we gotta close for a while. I wantcha to know that you will always be part of the family.”

    So Dave I reckon I may still have contacts on the West Coast and they always keep their promises.

  276. Dave H says:

    JT you are nuts, have you gotten into some bad wacky tobaccy, you should get your buddies in Vancouver to send you some good stuff.

  277. JT says:

    Big day in Dog Patch

  278. JT says:

    For you Dave

  279. Dave H says:

    Ha, I see you have come out of the woodwork JT. I see you are trying to hedumacate the Bloggers. Doggie bit off nose. Wow the nosey bugger.

  280. Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

    Sorry Jack I thought I was repling to JT, but I clicked on you instead. Told you I was incomputable!

  281. JT says:

    Jack

    You mean Dougal

  282. JT says:

    Sylvia

    Do you know about clicking the underlined initials

    • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

      Hi JT,

      No idea what you mean by clicking the underlined initials. I may have used a computer at work, but I filled boxes with figures, don’t know anything else. Please enlighten me.

      Sylvia

      • JT says:

        Sylvia

        OK when you see the initials of the person who has messaged you underlined and you click on the underlined initials this will be a link to a You Tube clip. Try it.

      • Jack Madron says:

        Sylvia.
        If you click on the underlined JT at the top of JT comment, you should get music or pix or something. John T and John B have seemed to have mastered this, what I call voodoo, knack of down loading. I haven’t mastered this yet.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi JT.
      You and JB are getting quite good at this underlined initial thing. Aren’t you? I still haven’t mastered it. Old dog. New trick, comes to mind.
      I think Johnny Cash recorded that song a few months before he died. Although I’m a Cash fan, I prefered Deano’s 1950s version. Two guitars, double bass and vocals. Great.

      Talking of dogs. I would have thought Presley’s Hounddog or Hank Snow’s Old Shep or Jim Reeves Old Tig, would have been a good choice. Or even the one from Magic Roundabout.

    • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

      I have just tried clicking on the underlined initials! I am really impressed, how do you do that.

      Sylvia

      ED: Hi Sylvia. There are some basic rules on the blogs, one of which is referring a website that you feel will be of interest to others. Each website has a distinctive address (called URL) which begins with “http://”. When you post a comment and fill in the mandatory boxes, such as Name, email address etc – you simply cut and paste the entire appropriate URL into the line/block marked ‘website’. This function will automatically ‘link’ your own name with the site and will then embolden your Name/Initials with a ‘hotlink’.

      Another ‘rule’ that was introduced earlier this year is the “Reply” function, (which I note you have already mastered) where you may open a ‘thread’ of conversations that respond to an existing comment. Simply hit ‘Reply’ and your fresh comment will adjoin to the previous Comment/Reply. This particular mention will hopefully serve as a reminder to others

  283. JT says:

    Memories ?

  284. JT says:

    Hi Boys (and Girl)

    Sylvia Its good to have a civilized presence on this blog.

    Re Doggies. I heard on the news that a Jack Russell bit his owners nose off yesterday. The owner was in bed at the time, bit scary or what? Back to the spare room for me. That big Greek hound of Annie’s keeps staring at me.

  285. Jack Madron says:

    Hello Sylvia.
    Nice to know you’re keeping an eye on this blog. Your comment on Bodmin Barracks and your roller skating, I bet you didn’t go as fast as us when we crossed that square. Ha ha.

    Pop in any time with a memory or two, we’ll be delighted to hear them. That’s one thing they can’t take away from us (yet).

    Keep in touch now.
    Jack.

    • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

      Hi Jack,

      Talking about getting across the square quickly, was it 140 you did? I remember there must have been a special occasion the Cubs, Brownies, Guides, Scouts and of course the DCLI were to march through the town. I think it started at Stan May’s Garage, us girls were maching in our St. Johns Ambulance uniforms. Anyway we set of to St. Petrocs the DCLI gave us a quite head start and still almost got to the church before we did!

      Sylvia

      • Jack Madron says:

        Sylvia.
        It was 140 a min. Wish I could do it now. We had the same problem in Minden for the Coronation Parade. That was a laugh at the time. Marking time, the whole battalion, before we got to the saluting base. I would love to know what your Dad thought of those other regiments. Ha ha.

        • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

          I remember the Coronation party at Minden, we all had to go in fancy dress I remember I was dressed as a Brownie and Eileen was a Mrs Charlady, with tins of brasso and polish in her pocket.

          I bet you do know what Dad thought of the other regiments, you are just too polite to write it here! and I like to think I am too much of a lady to write it either.

          Sylvia

        • Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

          PS was it the Coronation party that several gentlemen dressed as ladies and played football?

          • Jack Madron says:

            Sorry Sylvia.
            Don’t recall any party or football game after the Parade. I think we squaddies were just glad to get out of our best BD and either get to the NAAFI or get down town.

  286. Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

    Hi guys,

    I may not comment often but read your comments almost daily. It is lovely to see you bantering amongst your selves.

    When Dave H has finished shooting the dogs creating the ‘woof woof’ all day perhaps he would clean them up in my street too.

    I live in Kent now, that’s where Dad retired from the army. But we all miss Cornwall and go back as often as we can. We often visit the barracks and wander around as much as we can nowadays. Do you know they have blocked of the path to our house, we all used to roller skate down there, top to bottom can you imagine the speed we were doing, causing havoc as usual, good job there was no cars around in those days!

    That’s my little memory for today, hope you enjoyed it as I enjoyed thinking about it, I really long for those days.

    Bye for now, will pop in with another memory now and then, that is if you don’t mind.

    Sylvia

    • Dave H says:

      Hi Sylvia, hey as Jack says, do drop in and say Hi. Love to hear from you. As for the doggies on your street Jack is close to you, he may have an MMG in his spare room, but Jack just wants to shoot the owners. Do you still skate Sylvia? Lots of ladies ice skate here as do a lot of seniors. I never did learn wish I had and I have been here 40 odd years. You and Jack hope you both have a nice day.

  287. Dave H says:

    Well Well, no bloggers today, must be all blogged off and there is not even a JT to bug. Must be playing with his doggies. Wish I had an MG I would clean this street up. Woof woof day and bloody night, or maybe shoot the owners, friggin cowboys. Geeeeez

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi Dave.
      Not much happening at the moment, that’s why it’s probably so quiet. Don’t go blaming the dogs. It’s the bloody owners who need shooting. Not all, just some. Watched a programe last night about a berk who went out into the wilds of BC with a camera just to get pictures of grizzlies. Sod that for a joke. Must be better things to photograph or should I say, safer things.

      It didn’t half rain there as well and we thought we have it wet here in Cornwall. ‘Course, we don’t get snow like you do. More’s the pity. I like a bit of snow now and again.

  288. Dave H says:

    For JB here. That picture of that big old house, you said had burned. The story we got was a millionaire was having it built and they used beach sand and the salt just ate away the cement. By the way that was in Port Antonio, but Eroll Flynn had an Island there also, the light house I’m sure is also in Port Antonio. I know because I tried to climb up it when I got drunk. (No Comments please).

    • Dave H says:

      I forgot to add the name of the old house, I’m sure was called The Folly, I have a picture of it also but not too plain

      • DH & JB
        Perhaps this will enlighten things click on this link please.

        ED: Exposed URL’s are removed from body text, cheps. Kindly insert in box provided in Comment log. Steve’s URL referral is hotlinked to his embolded name.

  289. Dave H says:

    Looks like a nice camera Jack. If I bought that I would have to sell my bike and maybe my car. Ha ha. I bet you can take some neat close ups with it, get down to the beach and check out bikinis – you can email me the results. But don’t send pics of seagulls, got enough here.

  290. Dave H says:

    Jack the mail here is like pony express. I know you guys in the UK have delivery twice a day and they are starting now here to have cental boxes in the area, so then you will have to go pick it up. Hey I like that big camera you are holding.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi Dave.
      The camera I am holding was bought for me on that Friday afternoon. It’s a Panasonic LUMIX DMC-G1K with H-FSO14045 (LUMIX VARIO 14-45 mm/F3.5-5.6 ASPH/MEGA O.I.S )

      Don’t ask me what that all means. I’ve just read it from the instruction manual. All I do know is it’s a nice little camera. 12.1 pixels and Interchangeable Lens. I just got the 45-200mm telephoto lens a couple of weeks ago. Now I just have to learn how to use it. I think the dial sight is easier. Who knows. There might be another David Bailey about. Ha ha.

  291. Dave H says:

    Jack, I just received the pictures you sent me, they are as they say awesome. You all look great and thanks to all of you that signed and put a note in the Re-Union book that Jack also sent me and thanks to Derek and JT for all the work you put into the Re-Union.

    Dave

    • Jack Madron says:

      Dave.
      Glad they arrived ok. Was beginning to get a bit worried ’cause you hadn’t said anything and your little pres only took a week. Still, better late than never.

  292. John Billett says:

    Like this?

    ED: Yes JB – right on

  293. John Billett says:

    To Ed
    I have found some more photo’s taken at Bodmin over the years, a good one of myself and John Alsopp and various other visits. John Alsopp getting a shield and another with him possibly inspecting a passing out parade, for which his good wife Betty gave me copies. Do you want them sent to you by email so as they can be added to my folder.

    • G’Day JB

      Yes please. Any and all photos relating to DCLI Memorabilia are most welcome. Send ’em by email attachment – you ‘ole internet expert you!

      I’ll probably open a fresh Picasa Album.

      PS: Notice how a URL can be linked to embolden your name on any Comment. Just insert the web address (URL) of your Picasa Album to put into effect!

  294. Jack Madron says:

    JT.
    Well put mate. I agree with what you say. I never was, what some would call, an army man, just a 3 and 4. only because extra 12 months was more money and more leave. Only knew one person who gave the impression he hated NS.

    Getting away from the serious side, you did make me smile with your comment about, “up to speed on a laptop”. You should see me in action with this voodoo machine. Any slower and I’d be stopped. Still, I enjoy myself trying to learn a little about it and still typing one finger. Ha ha.

  295. John Billett says:

    And in reply to an earlier blog if you consider National Servicemen as real soldiers then I definitely was one and I got my knees brown. lol

    • Jack Madron says:

      JB.
      I was NS at first but signed on after a month at Bodmin. Joined 5th June 1952.
      Hey mate, you’re doing a lot better than I did when I started 2 years ago. My daughter got me interested, I’m glad to say and have thoroughly enjoyed the last two years and hope there are many more. Oh, as Ed has said. You can be an Honorary MMGer any time.

      The only time I got my knees brown was when we dug machine gun pits up at Menigue. Right spelling? Wrong colouring for getting a tan. Ha ha.

    • Dave H says:

      JB. It was I who asked if you were a real soldier. Hey I was just bugging JT as he was for a time just an office boy who never got his hands mucky and spent a lot of time at a beach.

      Oh JB, welcome to the blog and we will have you as an MMGer. You seem like a decent chap.

      • John Billett says:

        Hello Dave H, this is JB, I know you were only pulling one of my brown legs that’s why I came back with my comment, I was only teasing you. Its a bad job if we can’t have a laugh now and then isn’t it. Look after that lovely Cornwall for me won’t you,take care now.

        J B.

        ED: JB, your comment was temporarily ‘spammed’ until I release it from the capture. Akismet filters are very sensitive and will spam all Comments with URL’s in ’em until it recognises you. Keep on blogging ‘Ole Mate and only send once.

        • Jack Madron says:

          JB.
          I used to get spammed quite often. Fingers crossed, it hasn’t happened lately.

          Dave H is in Canada, by the way. Didn’t know each other until we met via the internet. It’s a small world now, thanks to PCs. We were both in MMG Platoon. Up Park Camp but different times. Did you know Tim Hodder or Peter Rowe? I had both as Platoon Commanders, Tim in Minden and Peter in Jamaica. Two good officers. I guess I was lucky.

      • John Billett says:

        J B.

        Hello Dave H, I know you were only pulling one of my little brown legs thats why I put my remark. I was only teasing you.Thanks for the compliment and thank you for the welcome to MMGs Blog.

        JB

      • JT says:

        Dave

        You infer there is much merit in getting your hands mucky. Like if I own a construction company the guys I pay peanuts to for digging foundations think they are the creme de la creme?

        Guess its better to let them believe it.

  296. John Billett says:

    Hi chaps, here I am on here at last, just to say 2 months ago I had never worked a computer with no intentions of doing so, I was at my son’s house one Saturday night, he Googled Empire Clyde and found your page we looked at the photos. With my son’s help we went between the pages, looking and reading, I found myself back at his house to look even more at the pages, he talked me into letting him scan my photo’s into his PC and putting them on a disc to give to the Ed for you all to share. If I had found the website earlier and found out about the Re-Union it might have been possible for me to have turned up.

    Since then Peg and I have been out and purchased a laptop and broadband, we found it very hard and weary at first but are getting there. I am glad I found this site, glad I met some of you at Bodmin Open Day even though we have been going there for the last 15 years!

    We are planning to be there again on the 17th October for Harry Patch Memorial Service.

    ED: Well Done JB and welcome again, you are the prime example of a Jamaican Vet, who has the backing of many supportive people and elements. Our thanks to your son for assisting you in the way that he has, and indeed our thanks to you personally for taking the time and making the effort to get blogging. Additionally you lead from the front in captioning your Picasa mounted photos for us all to enjoy.

    Blogging has become an essential feature of daily life for many an Old 1DCLI Soldier from the Caribbean and as you now know, from our meetings at Bodmin and from the comments across all blogs, the enthusiasm is infectious.

    PS: You might even get made up to be an Honorary MMG’er! – but then, that might require a painful operation!

  297. JT says:

    We have talked about this before and it must be true that most surviving people of our age do not have access to computers. Some may not have obliging sons, daughters or grand kids who even visit them let alone get them up to speed on a laptop. Some are ill or sadly just resigned to be old.

    There are other factors. For example as has been pointed out, the majority of ex National Servicemen did not enjoy any of it even when posted to somewhere like Bermuda . They have probably repressed for them unpleasant memories.

    What I have noted before and found to be unusual is that ex Nat Servicemen of our acquaintance on the blog and the guys who turned up at the Re-Union seemed in the main that they had subsequently served in the TA, rejoined as regulars and/or were members of their local British Legion (or captured by Terry’s Press Gang.)

    Perhaps there may not be many more recruits. But I see there is some sign of hesitant new bloggers.

    But let’s not forget that the Re-Union was a huge success and all credit to Derek and the local organizers in Cornwall.

  298. Dave H says:

    Well put Derek, I never thought of it how much the 2 years of our life meant, but to me it made me a better person, I think, I hope. Hey it wasn’t all fun but an experience I was glad to have and have not forgotten (well not all forgotten).

    Well for those who come along have a great night, or day, I’m off for a bike ride.

  299. Dave H says:

    Derek. Wow you have given me something to ponder here. You could be right about not having a computer. Before I retired I didn’t want to see one as we ran a chemical plant with 3 of them, so when I got home all I wanted to do was relax. But thinking this over, maybe a lot of chaps, just wanted to get their NS over with and get on with their lives, (I met quite a few in Jamaica). Anyway I’m glad Jack found me and I joined you guys. Got to get off this thing for now, maybe another thought will come up.

    Ta ta for now. Derek leave those roos alone.

    ED: Thanks for that important reminder, which has been made countless times over our blogging history. 2 years of NS represented 10% of a young 20 year old’s life, which at that time would have been a formidable experience. When now measured against (say) a 75 years term of life, we look through at a window of about .3 of 1% of that wider lifetime’s experience. Little wonder then that the ranking importance pales into insignificance – so far as NS recall is concerned.

    As I have written earlier “waken the giant within” with supportive encouragement for those halcyon days of our youth. As we all approach or pass the autumn of our years and (possibly) need an injection of youthful humour and memory – and remember – some of us have faced death, while others have already passed on, we can gain great benefits from diverting our thoughts to youthful activities while in the Regiment.

    Henry Ford: (Sayings on Life)
    The greatest thing in life is to keep your mind young.

  300. Jack Madron says:

    Hi Ed and Dave.
    Just read your comments about reasons others haven’t come on these blogs. I think the two main reasons are, not having a computer and secondly, if they have contact with a PC, are like me, very wary of this voodoo machine. I guess I’ve been very lucky since I started nearly two years ago. I didn’t know anybody except Swanny but I was welcomed into the blogs by JT and yourself Ed, both I’d never met before. Now I can say, I’ve friends all over the world. We may be from different parts of the UK but we’re all ex British squaddies and proud of it.

    I’m beginning to ramble a bit so I’ll stop before I make a complete idjit of myself. Hope you can make a bit of sense of this, chaps.

  301. Dave H says:

    Derek, thanks for the come back. To me why there is very little response to the blogs, either not too interested, can’t be bothered, have other things to do, but I’m sure they can spare a few minutes to even just a Hi Guys, I’m still above ground. The guys who have their pictures on here are few of us and there again most don’t blog. I wonder if they come in just to look see what’s going on?

    Derek I’m new in here and not one person who I was with in Jamaica is on here. If it wasn’t for Jack, JT and yourself, I would be outa here.

    OK rant over and out.

    ED: Point made Dave. However consider this undeniable fact. Before Jack Madron sussed you out off the British Light Infantry Guestbooks, there was in fact no common denominator ‘twixt you and he that existed (i.e. a special Jamaica oriented blog page). I’m referring to this specific blog, which has now evolved into a formidable jousting platform and which might – in due course attract other 1DCLI with Jamaica service, who will take the plunge!

    The ‘argument’ that Jack used to encourage YOU (i.e. camaraderie of the MMGs), might also be used with others who (a) are shy of computers, (b) can only access public computers, (c) can’t type or express themselves, (d) have every intention of ‘getting a round tuit’, (e) don’t yet know about us, (f) need a push or a shove.

    When this entire enterprise started over 3 years ago, I had a bunch of old photos, a bloody good memory and recall and a bucketful of web publishing knowledge. No other contact names, email addresses or reference points, other than memories. Remember also that I live in OZ, surrounded by crocs, roos and flies and a few blek fellas! 3 years later, we have direct/indirect contact with over 65 1DCLI squaddies from the Caribbean, some of whom travelled from all over the UK to attend the Re-Union and moreover 45 web and blog sites that contain over 2,000 photos. Now that to me is progress, encouragement and something to be proud of.

    The trick ‘Ole Mate, is to awaken the giant within. Everybody has a story (Desiderata) and these semi public blog pages might just be the stimulus needed before a lot of Old Soldiers cross over the River Styx.

    So, I believe that we few are the core elements in achieving a notable example of DCLI comradeship, similar to that which existed in the Caribbean barrack rooms, while we were cussing, doing our blancoing, polishing our brasses and bulling our boots.

    PS: Try poking “1dcli memorabilia” into Google and see the result. We appear on the first 9 pages (98 references) almost exclusively, which in itself is a force to be reckoned with. I’d bet that no other Regiment can boast THAT result!

  302. Dave H says:

    Jack, I have been in it for some time but don’t go in very often to look round, but I know you do have to pay to send emails and I’m not getting into that off subject here.

    I hope I have not upset JT. I’m just joking with him. I have upset a few people in different sites I’m in, they think I’m serious, but hell if they think that way – so be it. Oh and JT, I think you are a fine chap at least you come on here and natter – not like some of the others.

    OK maybe I’m in the shit again for that remark, but hey what the heck.

    ED: Thanks for your remarks Dave. From an encouragement point of view – to ALL users of our Blog Pages – I feel ’tis important to temper remarks made according to the sensitivity of a chosen topic. We are after all, a shrinking community and we hope that everyone will be supported and encouraged to keep on blogging. In particular I feel I should mention that JT was the very first original Bermuda Mate (and not an original 1DCLI chep to boot!) to support me on these web and blog sites, closely followed by Swanny. The writing of Memoirs – however originated – is and has been a work of huge demands at the Editorial level (for which I am solely and singly responsible) and I can personally appreciate the efforts made to amass the volumes of material and hammer it into publishable shape. The Fraser Pakes Memoirs took nearly 8 weeks to write involving over 80 email exchanges, and many, many ‘doctoring’ applications to old B/W photos (that appear in pristine condition – AFTER – doctoring). I sincerely hope that others will follow in the footsteps of those who have gone before.

    My offer that was broadcast during each and every Meeting at the Re-Union was for ALL ‘OLD DCLI SOLDIERS” to GOYA and forward photos and memorabilia, anecdotes etc to me, to record our history before it all passes into oblivion. I record here my thanks to John Billett, Jim Kelly, Dutch Hoon, Keith Mannings, Trevor Webb, Peter Rule, Don Ford and all the other former ‘regulars’, who thus far have answered the Re-Union call – with the photos now published on Picasa.

    Dave, you make a very important point in that JT is highly involved (right across the board of ALL Blogs) and he in turn has expressed disappointment that (following the collective effort of the core few at the Re-Union) there is little evidence (so far) that the majority either cannot or will not ‘get blogging’. One might ask the question as to WHY? Could it be intimidation? fear? ignorance?

    Best Regards

    Derek Lovemore in Brisbane

  303. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    There’s some rigmarole needed to get into Forces Re-United. Isn’t it ? Had a look earlier but can’t be bothered with all that. Worse than being on CO’s orders. Name. Rank. Number. What you had for breakfast and pay as well.

  304. Jack Madron says:

    Sorry Sylvia.
    I think I’ve made a mistake. I believe I’ve got you mixed up with Margaret. The old grey cells aren’t what they used to be. Ha ha.

  305. Jack Madron says:

    Hello Sylvia.
    I expect there are lots of stories about your dad. Like most if not all soldiers who knew him, I must admit he frightened the very life out of me.
    Being in Support Coy, I never got to know him that well but the times I came in contact with him are already told on his personal blog. You’ve probably read them.

    I’m sorry we didn’t meet at Bodmin but there was so much going on there wasn’t time to do everything, like meeting old mates and new friends who I’ve never met before but have contacted through these blogs that Derek has so kindly set up. May be getting older but life is sure looking up. Nice speaking to you, Sylvia. Take care.
    Jack Madron.

  306. Sylvia Scott (nee Royffe) says:

    Hi guys,

    I haven’t used this particular blog before, because I didn’t want to put you all off leaving your anecdotes, especially about my Father. But I love to read them, even the swearing (I’m sure I’ve heard it all before). As a family we know him as a caring fun loving man, but we did used to hear him shouting on the square, so we know there were two sides to him. I have left comments on his blog, but that doesn’t get a lot of comments.

    So here I am longing to hear about his exploits.

    Sylvia

  307. Jack Madron says:

    Not known to me, Dave.

  308. Dave H says:

    Jack or anyone, I got a message on Forces Reunited, from a William Dennis Cardew, an ex DCLI 1955-1957.He just said Hi David how are you doing. Anyone know this guy I have no way to contact him as no e-mail add was given

  309. JT says:

    Seems like almost the entire Caribbean posting have had total memory loss. No comments, no sharing of memories. No contributions. Think I’ll go to an RAC blog see whats going on there.

    “Catterick Capers”

    • Jack Madron says:

      Not complete memory loss, JT. But getting near it. Ha ha. I think we need some of the others to tell us their memories. There must be more to tell than town patrols in Kingston or ossifers and girl friends. For me, it was nice to see John Billett’s photos. They brought memories to me and I should think the latest ones will do the same for the Bermuda squad.

    • Dave H says:

      A very good idea JT. Have fun.

  310. JT says:

    For Swanny

  311. JT says:

    Dave

    I suppose some paraphrasing would be acceptable don’t you? Look it up. That will be 2 cents please.

  312. JT says:

    Dave

    Get a grip man it’ll soon be winter.

  313. Dave H says:

    I’m waiting on a reply from the memoirs guys, should be interesting, but I don’t think they come on this blog. Well JT comes on here to put his 2 cents worth in and that’s all about what its worth. Go Ahead JT make my day, its so bloody hot here today. Just like Jamaica mon 32c

  314. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    They came back to Bodmin. I don’t know for how long then they went to Germany. Osnabruck.
    My brother did his National Service with them. 1957-59. He was a driver, MT Platoon.
    You say about memory. I find I can remember somethings from years ago and other things are just a complete blank. Memory is a strange thing. Talking about memoirs, if I set mine down there would be lots of gaps. I can remember things from when I was a nipper in Mousehole but ask me what happened last week and I haven’t a clue.

  315. Dave Hutchinson says:

    Jack where did the DCLI go after Jamaica? did they stay in the UK or go abroad again?

  316. Dave Hutchinson says:

    Just a note here I know I’m going to get some flak over this, hey but I’m telling it how it is. Right JT?

    • JT says:

      Dave

      Er. A Diary for example might turn up some clues.

      • Dave H says:

        Now who would have thought, (a diary – Geeeeez you could have come up with a tape recorder). Now lads speak clear as in 50 or so years, I got to write my memoirs.

  317. Dave Hutchinson says:

    Jack, I was just thinking and JT is one of them, how on earth do they remember all that happened years ago, even conversations they had I’m talking about their Memoirs that they have put on here. Now I know some have letters from and to Mommy and Daddy which helps some but come on now, to remember what was said, is just too much. I can’t remember conversations I had last week never mind 50 odd years ago!

  318. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    Things must have altered ’cause we used to do 24 hr guards at that gate and 12hr night guards at the depot outside camp. I only did one quarter guard as a private in Jamaica and that was spent outside the adjutants office because I got stick orderly. Rather have done the guard.

    Did a few as I/C Relief and guard commander though. I agree with you about the camp.

    It wasn’t a patch on the barracks in Minden. Most in a room was six and less in most rooms. Those Germans knew how to look after their men. The gym alone would have housed S Coy huts from Up Park Camp. Radiators in every room and double glazing. Well, double windows, outer ones opened out and inner ones, into the rooms. Needed them in the winter. I prefered Germany to Jamaica, though it was nice to say, I’ve been there.

    ED: Note Well JT – Jack writes ‘huts’ not ‘nuts’

  319. Dave H says:

    Jack, I just looked at JB’s pictures, they are in great shape for their age. You know what I remember of the camp it was a dump but on those pics it looked OK. I remember someone said the Black Watch wrecked the place as well as Kingston. I know our accommodations weren’t the best and some of the others I visited like the mortars weren’t much better. Oh and another thing I saw Guards at the main gate in daytime, there were none during the day when I was there, but I did a few nights at that gate and a little incident during my watch – but that’s another story.

  320. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    Go to Caribbean Re-Union history and click on John Billett’s Photo Memorabilia. You will see some nice pix of Up Park Camp.
    Enjoy.

  321. JT says:

    and the livin was easy…..

  322. JT says:

    Dave

    Hey don’t knock it. I never spent all day in MY office -couple of hours in the morning. Then maybe a trip down town if could find a driver or pop down the the North Shore beach for a swim,then back to mess for luncheon served by the delectable Rosie (not the Rosie who got her tits out for a shilling), then perhaps a snooze in the afternoon. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  323. JT says:

    Dave

    JB is one of your Jamaica rum lot.

  324. JT says:

    Souljaboys

    • Dave H says:

      JT you got too much time on your hands. Rappin’ F***ing Penguins GeeeeeeZ

      ED: NB – amended to ‘rappin’ not ‘rapin’ JT!

      • JT says:

        Dave

        Rapin? I missed that bit. Just liked the title. However I do not have a lot of time on my hands what with organizing the revolution plus time with the shrink and visits to my probation officer.

        • Jack Madron says:

          JT.
          Can I join your revolution? I’ve been told I’ve been revolting for years.
          And does that shrink have any effect with waist lines?

        • Dave H says:

          What about visits to the chemists for your supply of Viagra I’m sure you need it at your age unless the Mrs has cut you off which I don’t blame her if she has, with that face fuzz.

      • JT says:

        Rappin? Thanks Ed I was a bit puzzled

  325. JT says:

    Jack
    Has Dave got a tricycle now ?

    You are senior soldier to JB due to your joining date. so you can still tell him to Get Some In.
    Where is he by the way ? a bit late on parade aint he ?
    You he and Dave can play nicely together .

    • David says:

      JT, at least I don’t have a wheel barrow to carry a bay window around, who is this JB? Was he a real soldier and not someone who sat in an office all day playin with? Oh never mind

  326. Jack Madron says:

    JT.
    Bill is senior in age and rank. Terry in rank only and JB same rank. Don’t know his age but he joined in May 53 I joined June 52. Of course now we’re all the same rank. Ancient. Except Dave. He’s taking up cycling again.

  327. JT says:

    Jack

    Just look at the time, looks like I am Guard Commander tonite. Must get back to the basement before first light. There is a whiff of garlic in the air

  328. JT says:

    Jack

    Have you lost your place to JB as senior soldier (except for Bill and Terry of course)

  329. Jack Madron says:

    Ed.
    My pix of Minden Court. First on page. Have found out the names of officer and Sgt.
    Lt Dunn and Sgt Mason.

  330. Jack Madron says:

    JT.
    Initials from now on. John Billett is now on line with us. He has got himself a laptop and has been on Caribbean Re-Union. Looking forward to when he comes on here.

  331. Jack Madron says:

    John.
    Good idea. Will do it right away.

  332. JT says:

    Jack leave him a message on the Empire Clyde blog

  333. Jack Madron says:

    John.
    Just emailed JB about his photos but when I sent it the bloody thing failed. All that typing for nothing. I never will understand this Voodoo Machine.

  334. JT says:

    Bloody hell now who got Fluffy excited again ?

  335. JT says:

    Jack and Dave

    Why don’t you get John Billet to come off the Empire Clyde Blog and join you 2 in the Cuckoo’s Nest?

  336. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    I remember some new recruits joining the platoon shortly before I left. We took them on the 30 yrd range to give them some firing practice and one of the guns had a jam which couldn’t be cleared. I ordered the gun to be stripped but Naylor countermanded my order and told the gunner to carry on. Lt Rowe came up and asked what was going on so I told him what I thought about the stoppage and he ordered the gun to be stripped. We found a bullet in the barrel and if forced farther in, the gun would have blown up, injuring if not killing someone.
    Naylor never took to kindly to me after that. That’s why I never liked him.

    • Rev Maltravers (fluffy) says:

      Why Hello Jack. Long time no speak dear.

      Back to stripping vicars again and who is your friend? Sounds husky(Canadian – Husky get it ?) Do you think he would be my new pen pal?

      • Dave H says:

        Fluffy, you can go fly a kite, you horny thing you and I don’t need a pen pal as I hate writing letters.

    • Dave H says:

      Jack it wasn’t our intake from the Durhams, that you had on the range. We had all the practice before we left, come on now Naylor wasn’t that bad, a bit rangy. I said rangy not randy. Well maybe randy also always had a black chick in his bed

  337. Dave H says:

    I don’t think it was Jack who was doing the yelling JT, I think the guy was black.

  338. JT says:

    Dave

    Jack was the guy who yelled “get yer knees brown” and “get some in”

  339. Dave H says:

    Jack. Today I was going through some old pictures and came across a post card I sent home when we were flying to Jamaica dated May 8th 1955. So we would have arrived same day at Up Park Camp, I remember so well it was dark when we were loaded into the truck at Kingston Airport. Now were you still in Jamaica on that date?

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi Dave.
      Yes, I didn’t leave until sometime in June. Can’t remember the actual date but do know it was a Friday. Took off from Kingston Airport at 0900 hrs. Funny how you remember some things but not others. Did you join MGs straight away? If you did, then our paths must have crossed.

      Was looking at John Billett pix and recognised some faces and places. Some of the chaps were in S Coy but can only name one of them, Jimmy Andrews. It wasn’t me who yelled “get yer knees brown”. Mine were still white after 15 months, although I did used to say “get some in” quite often and not just to rookies either.

      • Dave H says:

        Jack, Yes I went right to the MMGs – seems like we were there together for a short time, now to fiqure out where in hell you were. Ha ha. Either that or you got on the plane that we got off. If Fred Baulch knows of you then I should as I think we got there at the same time. Some times my memory is good – others not so good, strange isn’t it?

  340. Dave H says:

    We flew out and back, to Jamaica on that air craft, I still have the postcard of it which I picked up before we left, must be worth a fortune now. (I wish).

  341. JT says:

    Boer War favourite for Bill

  342. Dave H says:

    Stratocruisers JT. Wow you are old – they went out of service 60 years ago, you must be a WW2 vet.

    • JT says:

      Dave

      Most Air trooping to and from Caribbean in the 50’s was by BOAC Stratocruiser. These were developed by BOEING from the B29 Super Fortress of the type which dropped the A Bomb.

      Jack is the oldest member of this blog except Billy Boy who was in the Boer War weren’t you Bill?

      ED: Stratocruiser information linked to your initials JT.

      • Jack Madron says:

        John.
        I’ll take your word about Stratocruisers. We flew back in an Argonaut. BOAC of course. Only time I’ve ever flown.

  343. JT says:

    Did Stratocruisers fly that high ? Gee whiz !

  344. Dave H says:

    JT, if you were that pissed on the plane you might belong to the Mile High Club and not know it. Jack we may have a Mile High Club member on the Blog

  345. JT says:

    Dave

    Riveting stuff, ’bout as gripping as my only claim to celebrity contact when Stewart Granger bought me a beer at Gander Airport when I was on my way home from Bermuda “Hello soldier etc”

    When I say contact I don’t mean – u no wot.

    I have mentioned this event before on the blog but no one seems impressed. Might not even happened, I was so pissed having been plied with booze by the cabin staff en route (I was the only soldier on the plane.)

  346. Dave H says:

    JT so I said to him, Dick the government wanted the creme to join the MMG platoon in Jamaica, so here I is.

  347. JT says:

    This definitely was not MMGs

    • Jack Madron says:

      John.
      You are so right. They definitely were not MMGs. We only had proper soldiers in our platoon.

  348. JT says:

    Dave

    So just what were you doing in a place like that ?

  349. Dave H says:

    Jack you brought up a good point there, going to have to ponder that one. Now im seeing $$$$ signs, I wonder should we have autograghed photos? I remember Richard Burton saying to me “Dave what’s a nice guy like you doing in a place like this?”

  350. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    Have had a quick look at Seawife the film. Didn’t recognise anybody.
    A Coy and the others will be bloody jealous as hell when they find out about the stars of stage and film from MMGs Jamaica. How much are we going to charge for autograghs? Ha Ha.

  351. JT says:

    Dave

    Nah.. Doris knows its only piss taking.

  352. Dave H says:

    Now you 2 if Mrs Swanny sees this you are going to get him in deep poo poo

  353. JT says:

    Jack

    Now Now, don’t get Swanny excited

    • Jack Madron says:

      John.
      I’ve thought long and hard for a reply to this but I’m damned if I can think of any.
      There must be one but the grey cells are gone on strike.

  354. Dave Hutchinson says:

    You mean there was a lot of Jamaican food there. ha ha

  355. Dave H says:

    Jack, maybe he joined up again, and then again people do disappear in London. I wouldn’t live there, went to Motor Cycle show once in 1963, glad to get back home.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Dave.
      I lived there for a few years and found it OK but went back there to see a Country Music Show at Wembley some time back. Visited Shepherds Bush market and thought I was in Kingston Jamaica again.

  356. Dave H says:

    Thanks Jack. I went out and posted your little gift, sods at the post office wanted to know what it was, I think it’s for the customs. Maybe they thought I was sending you some good old BC marijuana ha ha.

    Hey maybe I should send you some, might give you some puff to pedal a bike. A bike would be good exercise for you – a Bay Window reducer.

    • Jack Madron says:

      I’m waiting for someone to invent a Bay Window reducer that doesn’t need human energy. You know, something like a belt that you put on and it gently smooths away all that *******. Of course the other way is stop eating, but I wouldn’t like that very much.

      I had to fill out a sticky label stating what was in the package for you. That was for customs as well. Also was told to put my name and address on or else it wouldn’t be allowed into Canada. All sorted now.

      JT gone AWOL again?

  357. Jack Madron says:

    Dave.
    Posted your photos this afternoon. Hope you get them OK. Not sent via Wells Fargo.

  358. Dave H says:

    Jack, I saw that about the guitar on our news a couple of days ago. Good for that guy I hope he makes a fortune.

    Right Jack, JT should be on stage, but sweeping it. Jack, now you see why Canada sent him back to the UK. Only want Da creme da crop here.

    • Jack Madron says:

      No Dave.
      I think JT is too good for sweeping but I did hear that Wells Fargo are looking for drivers.

      Got your pix of the bike. All that pedaling, too hard a work for me. OK on the flat or down hill but I haven’t got the puff I used to have. Don’t know why not. I haven’t smoked for 45 years. Probably all that cordite fumes.

  359. Dave H says:

    JT, they were called stupid asses and not worthy of being a MG Gunner, and chucked out and shipped out. Thank God he wasn’t a Durham lad.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Dave.
      You got some talent over there. On todays TV news there was a piece about a musician who had his guitar broken by an airline. He couldn’t get any joy from them so he wrote a song about what happened and put it on You Tube. The song is United Breaks Guitars and it’s by Sons of Maxwell. My type of music.

      Don’t you think JT should be on the stage. Quite a comedian, isn’t he?

  360. Dave H says:

    Jack, that story reminds me of the time one of our lads, had one of those blanks, put it in his rifle and said I wonder if it would go through my boot. Well of course it did and his big toe, but he did manage to get back to the UK. ha ha

    • JT says:

      Well Dave

      Did S Coy lads who shot themselves in the feet need support? Were they called the Lame Dukes?
      Jack?

  361. JT says:

    Jack

    I was in the cavalry, (5 Dragoon Guards) but we didn’t do Windows Media thingies. Mind you I didn’t do much at all being a spare prick at Catterick. Did some guard duties at the nut house at Catterick Mil Hospital in 1953

    Good training for this blog really.

    • Jack Madron says:

      Hi John.
      I don’t think all the nutters were housed at Catterick. We had one or two in the MGs in Germany. One was well known as the hunter as when on manoeuvres, he would go off into the forest with his rifle and a handful of bulleted blanks. You know, the blanks with wooden heads for firing in Brens. We ate well most of the time. Rabbits and sometimes rabbits with feathers, if we were close to a farm. What with fresh milk. Our coffee was always made with milk and hams from handy farms we did ok.

      Of course, you know who, used to turn a blind eye. I think we should have been called Hodders Marauders. Great times. Glad I wasn’t a rifle coy bod.

      • JT says:

        Jack

        It all sounded so great until bloody Hodder emerges in the story. Thanks a lot

  362. Jack Madron says:

    Daughter is the cavalry, John. She’ll tell me all about this Windows Media thingy.

  363. JT says:

    Jack

    Its getting complicated again innit ?

    • Jack Madron says:

      John.
      I shall have to call in the cavalry to help, I think.
      Daughter. Where are you?

      • JT says:

        Help! Jack has mis-laid his daughter now. Have you tried calling from the hills above Newlyn?

        “When I’m calling yoooo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo” ?

  364. Dave H says:

    Jack I think you will need windows media player to view it , I think you can down load it if you like

  365. JT says:

    Jack

    Just got this Saturday evening get together in Dog Patch BC

    Is that you Dave 4th from left ?

    • Jack Madron says:

      John.
      Reminds me of drill for Internal Security in Jamaica. Dustbin lids beaten with pick handles. Just as noisy.

    • Dave H says:

      JT, I think that lot has had way too much Meths – either that or they got into some rotten wakky Tobacky. They are not of my tribe that’s for sure, ours are Blackfoot, no and they didn’t visit Swanny’s coal shed either

      • Jack Madron says:

        Dave.
        Got your e-mail but minus sound and/or joke. Probably me again. Just like your pix, it’ll turn up sometime.

  366. Dave H says:

    Jack as I think I mentioned before, the MMGs were Da creme da crop. I wish we didn’t have to keep reminding them, but being older than I they must get the senior moments often.

  367. JT says:

    Thanks Dave

    Like me you are really into this interleckshul stuff.

    Pity you can’t get the Beano. Jack reads the Dandy (a bit down market). I like the Beano Financial pages and Political Commentary. Much better than the other tabloids.

    • Jack Madron says:

      John.
      How dare you call me a Dandy. We MMGs always looked smart. Didn’t we Dave? Anyhow, I prefered The Eagle and Radio Fun. They tabloids, I take three a day for blood pressure. Bloody nuisance, really.

    • Dave H says:

      Beano & Dandy. Gee JT you must be old. I don’t even remember those, a bit before my time I think

  368. JT, here is the other Alf, the story goes, he crashes his space ship on this families Garage and they take him in. On his planet they eat cats, and he is always trying ways to get the cat.

    ED: Dave – the You Tube URL has been relocated into the appropriate space in the Comment Box. URL’s placed in the normal run of text might get spammed out.

    • Dave H says:

      Thanks Derek, did you watch the clip? For the American sense of humour it wasn’t a bad show.

      ED: Yes Dave, I managed 30 seconds of that crap!

      • David says:

        Crap – well Derek I think the same about Coronation St. But different strokes, Eh?

  369. JT says:

    Dave

    More Alf for you

  370. Dave H says:

    That was agood movie JT did you see it ? and our town isnt quite that bad , (yet) but some of the rednecks look like that banjo player